Captain America vs. Superman: The Ultimate Hero

Originally posted by Starscream M
no when the hell did I say I would beat the hell out of innocent people?

using my powers to fry people who are trying to experiment on me is totally different

you are weak because you have no ambition

with super powers you just want to live a normal life!!??? jesus

with super powers, I would run the world like a utopia.

As for killing/beating the crap out of people, if you expose yourself, people will come after you and you'll have to defend yourself. You're gonna kill someone eventually, even if it's by way of some country trying to nuke you, that blood will be on your hands.

WTF is going on? Starscream, stop trolling and being such a stickler. Marwash is allowed to have an opinion different that yours. IMO, that means he's probably correct.

Noe, back to the topic.

Edit: biscuits

Originally posted by marwash22
So, you'd take away free will and diplomacy? I gotta say, I'm disappointed in you; I thought you were all about justice and protecting the weak... Creating a Utopia via brute force and fear mongering pretty much makes you villain.

As for killing/beating the crap out of people, if you expose yourself, people will come after you and you'll have to defend yourself. You're gonna kill someone eventually, even if it's by way of some country trying to nuke you, that blood will be on your hands.

I never said I'd take away free will

also, if I have to defend myself, I am only hurting people who are not considered innocent. why would blood be on my hands if someone is trying to kill me and I stop them? that makes no sense. by that logic, if someone breaks into someone's house and gets shot, you're gonna blame the homeowner?

I wouldn't force a utopian society on the world...more likely I would create a utopia on an island, and those who wish to join would be free to come, and those who don't won't have to. Nothing tyrannical about that.

Originally posted by Badabing
WTF is going on? Starscream, stop trolling and being such a stickler. Marwash is allowed to have an opinion different that yours. IMO, that means he's probably correct.

Noe, back to the topic.

Edit: biscuits

Originally posted by Omega Vision
With your FTL speed you could make it so that no one would ever see you while using your powers. Don't even bother with a disguise.

If you are going to use FTL speed in the real world, keeping a secret identity will be the least of your problems considering you will have destroyed the earth. 😈

phuck earth, what has it ever done for me?

Originally posted by Starscream M
also, if I have to defend myself, I am only hurting people who are not considered innocent. why would blood be on my hands if someone is trying to kill me and I stop them? that makes no sense. by that logic, if someone breaks into someone's house and gets shot, you're gonna blame the homeowner?

If you expose yourself for the godlike figure you are, governments/agencies/organizations would want to kill you based on fear. Once nukes started to fly, the casualties would start to pile up because you can't protect everyone. You would be directly responsible for the deaths of those people, all because you wanted to be seen as a God.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I wouldn't force a utopian society on the world...more likely I would create a utopia on an island, and those who wish to join would be free to come, and those who don't won't have to. Nothing tyrannical about that.

Originally posted by Mindset
phuck earth, what has it ever done for me?

Originally posted by Mindset
phuck earth, what has it ever done for me?

Originally posted by Starscream M
that would be a low price to pay to be a god

think, with superman's powers, I could do literally everything I wanted anytime I wanted

And you get everything that you want. And you're happy the first 1-2 months of having powers.

Then what?

As Superman, you live pretty damned long...

IMO superman is more humble as with his powers it is so much easier to pull dickery throughout his career. I mean it's like Lolololol earth Where did I hide the sun.

#4 definitely goes to Supes... both in comics and IRL.

1: Who would more likely sacrifice themself to save one person?

Captain America. On panel took a bullet to get a guard out of the way during civil war.

2: Who has a stronger will?

Captain America. While both have been brainwashed before, there are stories with Captain America in it shows him retaining some of his memories, or being one of, if not the easiest to rouse from the brainwashing.

3: Who is more humble/noble?
History? Go back to early superman stories, and you see him dicking around with Jimmy Olsen.

4: Who is more idolized?
Captain America. While some countries may view america with disdain, many view Superman as an outright alien. Think about the issues when they found all the survivors of Krypton and they were trying to make a place on earth. Also, while cap doesn't have the powerset, even gods and heralds will follow caps orders. Many people, (ie Vance) idolize Cap, and aspire to be like him. But while many envy Superman, noone can be like him unless they are born with his powerset.

5: Who has preformed more evil/bad deeds?
Depends on the term "evil". Tie.

6: Who would you rather be in comics?
In comics, Captain America. My PIS is too strong.

7: Who would you rather be in real life?
Superman. Noone would know my weakness, thus I would be invincible. And if you even whispered that you knew my weakness. I'd hear it, game over for you.

Originally posted by marwash22
sustained your very existence with it's various resources. sneer

Originally posted by rotiart
And if you even whispered that you knew my weakness. I'd hear it, game over for you.

Originally posted by rotiart
1: Who would more likely sacrifice themself to save one person?

Captain America. On panel took a bullet to get a guard out of the way during civil war.

2: Who has a stronger will?

Captain America. While both have been brainwashed before, there are stories with Captain America in it shows him retaining some of his memories, or being one of, if not the easiest to rouse from the brainwashing.

3: Who is more humble/noble?
History? Go back to early superman stories, and you see him dicking around with Jimmy Olsen.

4: Who is more idolized?
Captain America. While some countries may view america with disdain, many view Superman as an outright alien. Think about the issues when they found all the survivors of Krypton and they were trying to make a place on earth. Also, while cap doesn't have the powerset, even gods and heralds will follow caps orders. Many people, (ie Vance) idolize Cap, and aspire to be like him. But while many envy Superman, noone can be like him unless they are born with his powerset.

5: Who has preformed more evil/bad deeds?
Depends on the term "evil". Tie.

6: Who would you rather be in comics?
In comics, Captain America. My PIS is too strong.

7: Who would you rather be in real life?
Superman. Noone would know my weakness, thus I would be invincible. And if you even whispered that you knew my weakness. I'd hear it, game over for you.

The best statement on the board.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
1. Is the person American? 😛 In seriousness though this one is a tie. They're both pretty selfless.

2. Superman.

3. Tie. Both of them have their douchebag moments.

4. Superman. Cap is just as idolized among fellow heroes but among the general public his reputation is stained by Civil War and propaganda.

5. Superman, especially if you're counting PC Superman and his dickery.

6. Superman.

7. Superman.

👆

hit the nail on the head.

Originally posted by Starscream M
no when the hell did I say I would beat the hell out of innocent people?

using my powers to fry people who are trying to experiment on me is totally different

you are weak because you have no ambition

with super powers you just want to live a normal life!!??? jesus

with super powers, I would run the world like a utopia.

and end up like superman red son. good luck with that.

1: Who would more likely sacrifice themself to save one person?

Captain America...Superman's sacrifices have revolved around saving the city, personal friends and family and society as a whole.

2: Who has a stronger will?

Captain America. Superman however is on occasion more resistant due to his powerset.

3: Who is more humble/noble?
Captain America.
Cap wins by default because Superman is constantly holding back his "true potential" he knows few people can really kill him in a life death situation. Cap can die much easier, and knows this in each and every battle he steps into.

4: Who is more idolized?
Superman.

5: Who has preformed more evil/bad deeds?
Toss up depending on the story.

6: Who would you rather be in comics?
Captain America.

7: Who would you rather be in real life?
Superman but it would suck in a lot of ways.

Originally posted by rotiart

2: Who has a stronger will?

Captain America. While both have been brainwashed before, there are stories with Captain America in it shows him retaining some of his memories, or being one of, if not the easiest to rouse from the brainwashing.

Originally posted by Mindset
Nope, I've sustained Earth.

If we could figure out a way to convert ego into energy this might one day be true. I'm working on it.

Actually that would eventually lead to ego bombs... the most powerful destructive force the world has ever seen. On the bright side, the US would be back on top again 😛