Marvel heralds vs DC Heralds (Idea taken from Carver)

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Oak Parker Restricted

Originally posted by Galan007
Ah, so Maxima is on par with Thor, and Orion can control the energies of Bill's hammer and then proceed to physically pummel him?

Yeeeeah, I think that's my cue to stop debating with you. 🙂

I didn't say Maxima was on par with Thor. I said no one on team one is one shotting her. If you gonna debate me, at least debat what I am saying and not what you want me to say. Orion controlled DS energies and pushed them back on him once. Orion also controlled the energies of a quantum bomb. So I think it is safe to say, he can control high energy. His Mother box has controlled energy as well. Orion has also simply blasted against energies and overwhelmed the users. Never said Orion would pummel BRB. But, Orion does beat BRB. In the same way Orion beat Superman when using all of his powers. Ok, now if you want to stop debating, that is fine. But debat what I'm saying. Not what you think I'm saying.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeeeeah, I think that's my cue to stop debating with you. 🙂
that's nvr a good idea

Stoic Avenger

I know that Nova Prime is very powerful, but when the Surfer grabbed him up by the neck I questioned his power level. If he were replaced in this thread by Stardust, or Morg at his best, I think that it would be a little more even. As it stands, Infinity Man helps put DC ahead by a comfortable margin.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by psycho gundam
that's nvr a good idea
haw-som

CosmicComet Senior Member

^Why did you question his powerlevel? Neither of them wanted to fight and they both crash landed on that planet while locking up in an equal power struggle.

Nova has also gotten a lot more powerful since then.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Oak Parker
Maxima was the only one who was able to hurt Doomsday besides Superman. Plus Maxima kept up with the power upgrades. When Superman got more powerful, she was still able to hang with him in speed and strength. She punked PG. Maxima can make duplicates of her self and muck with BRB or Nova easily.

And Orion can do pretty much everything Thor can. Hell BRB isn't that versatile. Orion is waaaaay faster, waaaay more blastier, and even stronger than BRB. Orion is as strong as Superman. Neither Thor or BRB are. I agree Surfer does beat Orion, but it would be like a fight against Morg. It would take a good long while.

Yat Still sucks but so does Nova Prime.

Beta ray. Bill has busted planets with his strength and has fought in space at faster than light speed, what has orion done to prove that he is faster or stronger than bill?

Oak Parker Restricted

Originally posted by carver9
Beta ray. Bill has busted planets with his strength and has fought in space at faster than light speed, what has orion done to prove that he is faster or stronger than bill?
BRB has busted a planet using energy from his hammer, Storm Breaker. The hammer was glowing when he used it. Orion has matched Superman in physical combat. BRB could not do that.

Uriel005 Senior Member

The thing about the surfer in any thread is that his potential is to be greater than Galactus because if I understood correctly when he raged against LT for showing his homeworld he used power cosmic to generate more power cosmic than what he was using to make more. So in theory his power is infinite and is quite possibly unmatched in the sense that he can spontaneously generate more power at will to an unlimited extent.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

Originally posted by Oak Parker
BRB has busted a planet using energy from his hammer, Storm Breaker. The hammer was glowing when he used it. Orion has matched Superman in physical combat. BRB could not do that.
has he ever tried?

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by Oak Parker
BRB has busted a planet using energy from his hammer, Storm Breaker. The hammer was glowing when he used it. Orion has matched Superman in physical combat. BRB could not do that.

He didn't bust two planets with any type of energy... he used physical strength.

What makes you believe that bill can't match superman when he has match thor before and physically took down tanaraq along with other high end beings. If anything, I would give bill the majority against supes.

Oak Parker Restricted

Originally posted by carver9
He didn't bust two planets with any type of energy... he used physical strength.

What makes you believe that bill can't match superman when he has match thor before and physically took down tanaraq along with other high end beings. If anything, I would give bill the majority against supes.

Superman would blitz BRB to all hell. Then pick up his hammer and beat him to death with it.

Lunacyde Lord of Logic
Originally posted by carver9
Beta ray. Bill has busted planets with his strength and has fought in space at faster than light speed, what has orion done to prove that he is faster or stronger than bill?

When was it stated that BRB was fighting faster than light speed? Just curious.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

superman can't lift it. stormbreaker is harder to use (if you're not bill) than mjolnir is since it was made specifically for him to exact revenge with.

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by Oak Parker
Superman would blitz BRB to all hell. Then pick up his hammer and beat him to death with it.

First thing I don't think supes would blitz bill... if surfer or stardust couldn't do it, supes isn't doing it... besides speed, everything else falls in bills favor. He is just more powerful.

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by Lunacyde
When was it stated that BRB was fighting faster than light speed? Just curious.

When skuttlebucket was achieving far greater than light speed and bill stepped outside of skuttlebucket to face surfer while keeping up with the ship and fighting surfer at the same time. The ship was hitting warp speed and both surfer and bill was keeping up with it while fighting at tremendous speeds.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Oak Parker
BRB has busted a planet using energy from his hammer, Storm Breaker. The hammer was glowing when he used it. Orion has matched Superman in physical combat. BRB could not do that.
A hammerless Bill has beaten a hammerless Thor with fisticuffs alone.

...But I'm sure matching/overcoming Thor in a h2h battle still doesn't put him in Orion's strength class, right? srsly

CosmicComet Senior Member

^It doesn't.

Orion is on Superman's tier. Not on Thor's tier.

(Yes I'm seperating them within one tier)

Oak Parker Restricted

Originally posted by Galan007
A hammerless Bill has beaten a hammerless Thor with fisticuffs alone.

...But I'm sure matching/overcoming Thor in a h2h battle still doesn't put him in Orion's strength class, right? srsly

What does class have to do with it? They can be in same class. Orion is still as strong as Superman. Bill is not.

King Castle Restricted

are you guys kidding? 😬

CosmicComet Senior Member

Not kidding.

Superman's dial 11 > Thor's round 2 enchantment.