Also, I thought I'd point out that "No CIS" isn't actually a stipulation in this thread, that's just something that batdude and I got sidetracked on. That's why I said that I could see the trick working a couple of times out of 10 rather than something like batdudes counter pitch of "Black Adam wins 10/10 via magic-drenched fists before SS can react.".
Originally posted by -Pr-
how many times? how consistently?
Originally posted by darthgoober
Once for sure in combat that I know of, and homeboy said he knew of once during an interrogation. Nowhere near enough to justify him using it for the majority against anyone in a thread featuring CIS, but enough to justify him using it occasionally in a normal thread and often in a CIS free thread.
so nothing that's going to sway the majority, then?
Originally posted by -Pr-
so nothing that's going to sway the majority, then?
Originally posted by darthgoober
BA would win, but if SS fought smart he could make Adam work for it and could probably take a couple.
Originally posted by batdude123
He may make him earn his victories, but SS isn't beating Adam.
Originally posted by darthgoober
IDK, I could see the force field in the brain trick working at least a couple of times out of 10.
Originally posted by batdude123
He's done it once on panel in how many appearances?
Think about it like this, how many times has Supes used his "aura vision" in his far greater number of appearances? If it's only two or three times, do you refuse to recognize his ability to do so in a thread where it's actually relevant?
But just so we're clear, what are you actually arguing here? That SS lacks the ability to create force fields inside of someone, that he lacks the inclination, or that he simply shouldn't be allowed to do so?
Originally posted by darthgoober
Does it matter when we're talking about an infrequent use in a thread featuring CIS or in a thread that's completely CIS free?Think about it like this, how many times has Supes used his "aura vision" in his far greater number of appearances? If it's only two or three times, do you refuse to recognize his ability to do so in a thread where it's actually relevant?
But just so we're clear, what are you actually arguing here? That SS lacks the ability to create force fields inside of someone, that he lacks the inclination, or that he simply shouldn't be allowed to do so?
Think about it like this, you don't see anybody in a CIS-free thread argue that Superman is going to vibrate his opponent out of existence, or T-Vo him into oblivion (at least, not anymore). A character going all-out with no-CIS doesn't mean we cherry-pick obscure feats that are hardly, if ever duplicated.
So again, and this time you've got a mod reiterating the point, "No CIS" =/= "I control every move the character makes tourney-style."
Originally posted by batdude123
Think about it like this, you don't see anybody in a CIS-free thread argue that Superman is going to vibrate his opponent out of existence, or T-Vo him into oblivion (at least, not anymore). A character going all-out with no-CIS doesn't mean we cherry-pick obscure feats that are hardly, if ever duplicated.So again, and this time you've got a mod reiterating the point, "No CIS" =/= "I control every move the character makes tourney-style."
Originally posted by darthgoober
Once for sure in combat that I know of, and homeboy said he knew of once during an interrogation. Nowhere near enough to justify him using it for the majority against anyone in a thread featuring CIS, but enough to justify him using it occasionally in a normal thread and often in a CIS free thread.
Originally posted by -Pr-
so nothing that's going to sway the majority, then?
But let's ignore what the mods seem to be saying about it and say that everything's set up the way you want, does that mean I'll never see you pitch a lightspeed blitz from Supes in a CIS free thread?
And again...
Originally posted by darthgoober
Does it matter when we're talking about an infrequent use in a thread featuring CIS or in a thread that's completely CIS free?Think about it like this, how many times has Supes used his "aura vision" in his far greater number of appearances? If it's only two or three times, do you refuse to recognize his ability to do so in a thread where it's actually relevant?
But just so we're clear, what are you actually arguing here? That SS lacks the ability to create force fields inside of someone, that he lacks the inclination, or that he simply shouldn't be allowed to do so?
i often think CIS doesnt necessarily hamper a character in a forum fight.
in a comic he will not be written to the best of his ability or kill even when his mindset and personality would make it the most obvious attack.
i guess PIS would fit more then CIS.....b/c SS can and would use such a tactic to kill regularly if he were allowed to.