Walking Dead's Robert Kirkman: Ingenious Innovator or Plagarist Hack?? · Comic Books

ThAnus_ofTITass Restricted

Kirkman is JESUS! He is the SAVIOUR of comics.

theICONiac Senior Member

Originally posted by ThAnus_ofTITass
Kirkman is JESUS! He is the SAVIOUR of comics.

You are MY saviour!

Good to see you again 🙂

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

romaro doesn't actually own night of the living dead, he never got it copywritten so it's public domain.

theICONiac Senior Member

Originally posted by psycho gundam
romaro doesn't actually own night of the living dead, he never got it copywritten so it's public domain.

This may be, but consider this; what if I wrote a novel about:

1. A future where robots have taken over and send one of their own back into the past to eliminate a future leader

2. Where scientists have extrapolated enough dna from fossils to create their own dinosaurs, and do so...creating their own theme park

3. how 4 middle-age women in New York city muse over their sexual exploits (ewwwwwwwwwwww).

Would you call me original, someone who borrows, or a blatant rip-off artist?

basilisk Senior Member

Originally posted by theICONiac
This may be, but consider this; what if I wrote a novel about:
1. A future where robots have taken over and send one of their own back into the past to eliminate a future leader

Interestingly, the makers of Terminator did get taken to court over by Harlan Ellison over perceived similarities to two of Ellisons 'Outer Limits' episodes. Cameron denied it, and the studio was going to fight it. However the story goes that supposedly someone admitted that Cameron had mentioned the episodes while making the film, and they settled out of court. Harlan Ellison's name now appears in the credits.

2. Where scientists have extrapolated enough dna from fossils to create their own dinosaurs, and do so...creating their own theme park

Some of the concepts for this movie were taken from the ideas flying around at the time from scientists and in the media about the possibility of bringing back animals from DNA in fossils, amber and so on. Of course Spielberg etc wrote a whole story around it, but the basic ideas weren't entirely theirs to begin with.

3. how 4 middle-age women in New York city muse over their sexual exploits (ewwwwwwwwwwww).

One version was bad enough. They did sort of try it again with Lipstick Jungle and Cashmere Mafia, which viewers thankfully stayed the hell away from.

Would you call me original, someone who borrows, or a blatant rip-off artist?

But has Kirkman ever really claimed any sort of credit for the setting? I don't think anyone out there would believe the concepts were in any way his ideas. The way I look at it is that the zombie apocalypse world exists as a shared world without any copyright (by accident or whatever), so anyone can tell their stories in it - and plenty do (on top of movies, comics, and tv about a million+ short stories and trash novels out there if you look around). He just chose to write a different sort of story, long running and open ended. I think it's a good change from all the one-off movies, and comics.

StiltmanFTW CBvF

It's good that Kirkman uses the rules of Romero's zombieverse. Virus thing is lame.

dmills Centurion Prime

Hell at least the zombie mythos has remained relatively intact. You should try being a werewolf fan. Most modern depictions of werewolves- i.e. twilight, Trueblood etc.- have them running around on all fours like overgrown german sheperds. Long gone are the days of the monsterous humanoid creatures with superhuman strength that can only be killed by silver.

-Pr- Hey Yo!

At least we still have stuff like the Wolfman...

dmills Centurion Prime

Originally posted by -Pr-
At least we still have stuff like the Wolfman...

Forgot about that one. It was ok. Forgot about the Underworld trilogy as well.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

Originally posted by theICONiac
This may be, but consider this; what if I wrote a novel about:
1. A future where robots have taken over and send one of their own back into the past to eliminate a future leader
2. Where scientists have extrapolated enough dna from fossils to create their own dinosaurs, and do so...creating their own theme park
3. how 4 middle-age women in New York city muse over their sexual exploits (ewwwwwwwwwwww).
Would you call me original, someone who borrows, or a blatant rip-off artist?

those instances are different

plus, as stiltman said romaro is hailed as a god cause he made the "rules", he didn't create zombies. if anything kirkman is making a homage to the film, but at the same time making the vision romaro couldn't due to resources and such.

"3. how 4 middle-age women in New York city muse over their sexual exploits (ewwwwwwwwwwww)."

^ that was pretty disgusting

theICONiac Senior Member

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ that was pretty disgusting

Disgusting in that it was a sexist remark in regards to middle-aged women?

Or did you get a visual in your head of Sarah Jessica Parker riding the baloney-pony? 😄

vansonbee Isee

Episode 5

It seem different per se from the comic.

The part where band headed to a government facility

Maybe its for the best? Storyline wise

basilisk Senior Member

Originally posted by dmills
Hell at least the zombie mythos has remained relatively intact. You should try being a werewolf fan. Most modern depictions of werewolves- i.e. twilight, Trueblood etc.- have them running around on all fours like overgrown german sheperds. Long gone are the days of the monsterous humanoid creatures with superhuman strength that can only be killed by silver.

Although werewolf folklore has varied throughout history anyway. A lot if not all of the earliest werewolf depictions were just men who turned into actual wolves (and not overgrown ones). I think the humanoid werewolves came a bit later, nowdays we seem to have the giant mutant wolf type stuff.

Kazenji Onyx Prime

Originally posted by theICONiac
Would you call me original, someone who borrows, or a blatant rip-off artist?

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Well everyone is ripping off each others work in one way or another...

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Originally posted by vansonbee
Episode 5
It seem different per se from the comic.
The part where band headed to a government facility
Maybe its for the best? Storyline wise

I don't think that's a step in a good direction, tbh.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Apparently none of 'The Walking Dead's' season 1 writing staff will be part of the second season, because Darabont fired all of them and gave the job to a bunch of freelance writers... And to top it off, season 2 won't even air until October of next year.

Does the guy not know how successful the show has been, or does he just not give a shit? Savor season 1, people... It will likely be the best. srsly

StiltmanFTW CBvF

What?! Damn... been enjoying the show thus far 🙁

srankmissingnin VP of Comic Knowledge

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What?! Damn... been enjoying the show thus far 🙁

Don't worry, that's not what happened. Darabont was supposed to step down as show runner for season two but he decided to stay on, so the writer who was going to take over as show runner left. That is only one guy. Not that it would have been a big deal if he fired his entire writing staff. I mean Darabont wrote two episodes himself, and had outsiders writers (Kirkman and someone else) write two episodes. So his team of writers only wrote two episodes... and Darabont then rewrote them...

srankmissingnin VP of Comic Knowledge

The rumor is that Charles H. Eglee (the writer who left) left to be show runner on an tv adaption of Bendis' powers over at FX.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Don't worry, that's not what happened. Darabont was supposed to step down as show runner for season two but he decided to stay on, so the writer who was going to take over as show runner left. That is only one guy. Not that it would have been a big deal if he fired his entire writing staff. I mean Darabont wrote two episodes himself, and had outsiders writers (Kirkman and someone else) write two episodes. So his team of writers only wrote two episodes... and Darabont then rewrote them...

Damn, the weekly 'what's new' video clips on comicvine were WAY off. 👇

Season 2 still isn't going to air until next October, right?