Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
lol Force push, force speed, Lightsaber throw, game over, alice doesnt even know what the frack happened to her. Bullets don't beat force power buddy, that's first day stuff lol.
LOL Alice is a bullet timer, babe. She'll be moving too fast for the Jedi.
Bullets DO beat force powers, all day, every day. End of story.
Plus......you know......her Psionic attacks........Yeah......
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nah, Alice mows the Jedi down with ease. Clones too. She loses MAYBE half her number.
No she don't, and here we are dealing with some of the best clones in the Galaxy, they attacked the Jedi Temple along with Anakin Skywalker and won, so they are not exactly worthless.
Originally posted by Utrigita
No she don't, and here we are dealing with some of the best clones in the Galaxy, they attacked the Jedi Temple along with Anakin Skywalker and won, so they are not exactly worthless.
I never said they were worthless. They win due to sheer numbers, Anakin had hundreds with him at the temple.
Alice is a bullet timer, as are her clones. One of her psionic attacks will likely attacks will take out all the clones. Remember, even numbers here.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I never said they were worthless. They win due to sheer numbers, Anakin had hundreds with him at the temple.Alice is a bullet timer, as are her clones. One of her psionic attacks will likely attacks will take out all the clones. Remember, even numbers here.
Yes they didn't utilize tactics at all, they just flooded into the tempel standing in a line and then fired away right?
The Jedi's are arguably bullettimers to, that doesn't help you when you are being fired upon from 5 different directions with Blaster weapons.
The Jedi/Sith will have no problem imo cutting down Alice Clones with their lightsabers and use of force abilities especially from the Sith will be a nasty surprise to the Clones and Alice.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Yes they didn't utilize tactics at all, they just flooded into the tempel standing in a line and then fired away right?The Jedi's are arguably bullettimers to, that doesn't help you when you are being fired upon from 5 different directions with Blaster weapons.
The Jedi/Sith are arguably bullet timers too, plus they will have no problem imo cutting down Alice Clones with their lightsabers, hell Dooku and Sidious along with Maul might actually enjoy it.
It's not like Alice and her clones are gonna let themselves be surrounded, dude. They showed damn good tactics by breaking into the Umbrella facility.
The Jedi are not bullet timers. They aren't even blaster-bolt timers. Bullets>>>>Blaster bolts.
Psionic attack.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
It's not like Alice and her clones are gonna let themselves be surrounded, dude. They showed damn good tactics by breaking into the Umbrella facility.The Jedi are not bullet timers. They aren't even blaster-bolt timers. Bullets>>>>Blaster bolts.
Psionic attack.
And you are dealing with a regiment of clones that have fought through the entire clone war, that continued to serve after Order 66 and remained one of if not the best fighting force the emporer had, they boarded Leia's plane with 3 dead stormtroopers (iirc) and was the ones attacking the echo base. These guys isn't going to be gunned down in any way.
I'm sorry but isn't the jedi's parrying blaster bolts constantly? And I think that depends on the eyes looking at it, the blastbolt is basically a beam of energy being fired, some say that the blast is merely there for us to look upon, and is in reality moving significantly faster near the speed of what it is a laser beam. Others say that is has the speed of a dart gun, I really don't care either way, since the Jedi/Sith doesn't as far as I understand it react to the laser but rather to the position the gun is placed in, so they move their lightsaber to that point before the blaster is fired, or they do like Luke did in the expanded Universe and block the blasterbolts within 10 meters from 20-30 Chriss soldiers because they had Yselmaries. But either way a detour.
Force Choke.
Originally posted by UtrigitaForce choke targets one individual at a time, and it takes quite some time to kill.
And you are dealing with a regiment of clones that have fought through the entire clone war, that continued to serve after Order 66 and remained one of if not the best fighting force the emporer had, they boarded Leia's plane with 3 dead stormtroopers (iirc) and was the ones attacking the echo base. These guys isn't going to be gunned down in any way.I'm sorry but isn't the jedi's parrying blaster bolts constantly? And I think that depends on the eyes looking at it, the blastbolt is basically a beam of energy being fired, some say that the blast is merely there for us to look upon, and is in reality moving significantly faster near the speed of what it is a laser beam. Others say that is has the speed of a dart gun, I really don't care either way, since the Jedi/Sith doesn't as far as I understand it react to the laser but rather to the position the gun is placed in, so they move their lightsaber to that point before the blaster is fired, or they do like Luke did in the expanded Universe and block the blasterbolts within 10 meters from 20-30 Chriss soldiers because they had Yselmaries. But either way a detour.
Force Choke.
Here, FF to 2:55
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All of Alice's clones can do this. Imagine all of them, all at once, targeting and doing this. The Jedi aren't blocking it.
And again, they all carry at least 2 machine pistols. Real life automatic gunfire is far faster and waaaaaaaaaaay more repetitive than any blaster fire.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
LOL Alice is a bullet timer, babe. She'll be moving too fast for the Jedi.Bullets DO beat force powers, all day, every day. End of story.
Plus......you know......her Psionic attacks........Yeah......
Lol bullet timer bullshit 😂 Who do you think invented bullet time, buddy. Alice moves so slow that the camera actually has to compensate for her 😂 Jedis stay blocking lightning fast lasers with their light sabers all day and night.Not only can they block bullets with their light sabers, they can also force push/ force grip with the other hand...,all whilst repelling her dinky psionic attacks with the sheer will of their minds...,it's called mastery of the force I would think someone with the name Rogue Jedi would know of these limits, but i suppose you need to go back to school yet again.
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Originally posted by jinXed by JaNxEr, no. It's right there in the vid, Alice and her clones literally dodge bullets. That's bullet timing. If they can dodge AUTOMATIC gunfire from several shooters, they can dodge blaster bolts even more easily.
Lol bullet timer bullshit 😂 Who do you think invented bullet time, buddy. Alice moves so slow that the camera actually has to compensate for her 😂
Jedis stay blocking lightning fast lasers with their light sabers all day and night.Not only can they block bullets with their light sabers,Er, no. Bullets travel a shitload faster than Blaster bolts. Machine pistols fire 20 rounds a second, ish. The Jedi cannot block bullets.
they can also force push/ force grip with the other hand...,all whilst repelling her dinky psionic attacks with the sheer will of their minds...,Er, no. Her psionic attacks are far stronger than anything the Jedi are shown blocking. Plus she has TK shields.
Bullet timing+Stronger powers+Automatic guns that fire 20 rounds/second= Raped Jedi.
it's called mastery of the force I would think someone with the name Rogue Jedi would know of these limits, but i suppose you need to go back to school yet again.Read all of what I just said. Pay attention.😆
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Er, no. It's right there in the vid, Alice and her clones literally dodge bullets. That's bullet timing. If they can dodge AUTOMATIC gunfire from several shooters, they can dodge blaster bolts even more easily.Er, no. Bullets travel a shitload faster than Blaster bolts. Machine pistols fire 20 rounds a second, ish. The Jedi cannot block bullets.
Er, no. Her psionic attacks are far stronger than anything the Jedi are shown blocking. Plus she has TK shields.
Bullet timing+Stronger powers+Automatic guns that fire 20 rounds/second= Raped Jedi.
Read all of what I just said. Pay attention.
😂 Now you're just pulling shit out of you're ass, man. I can't believe a man so astute as you would even bother to overlook the golden rule...You can't take the Neo out of the Matrix.
You can clock a bullet but you can't clock a blaster round. 😂 If you really want to introduce physics into the equation here then i'll rain on you're parade all day...,i got nothing but time...,
The jedi can move and manipulate physical matter with their mind...,this has been proven countless times. Blaster rounds are not matter, they are energy. Bullets, however, are physical matter which are easily repelled by force push and or disintegrated by the energy of the lightsaber. While Alice is trying to walk all super slow, the Jedi force blitz behind her and saber throws her in half...fatality my friend.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNxK.
😂 Now you're just pulling shit out of you're ass, man. I can't believe a man so astute as you would even bother to overlook the golden rule...You can't take the Neo out of the Matrix.
You can clock a bullet but you can't clock a blaster round. 😂 If you really want to introduce physics into the equation here then i'll rain on you're parade all day...,i got nothing but time...,It's been proven here that blaster bolts travel far slower than real life guns. DDM, and his figures were dead on. You wanna refute them? Be my guest. Plus, all you gotta do is watch the SW movies to see how sloooooooooooooooooooooow blaster bolts travel.
But let's say they travel the same speed. If Alice dodges bullets, she dodges blaster fire.
Next question?
b]The jedi can move and manipulate physical matter with their mind...,this has been proven countless times. Blaster rounds are not matter, they are energy. Bullets, however, are physical matter which are easily repelled by force push and or disintegrated by the energy of the lightsaber. [/b]Has a Jedi ever been shown blocking bullets from guns that fire 20 rounds a second? Nope.
Not to mention Alice's shotgun. Yeah, try and block some buckshot.
And......did you just say.......that the Jedi.....can force push the bullets away? Oh man facepalm Fail, dude. Epic fail.
While Alice is trying to walk all super slow, the Jedi force blitz behind her and saber throws her in half...fatality my friend.Sure, Alice is a slow mover 🙄 That's why she dodges bullets, dumbass.
Plus her psionic attack aint gonna be blocked by force powers. It's gonna plow into and over the Jedi and clones.
Here's the short and skinny of it, babe: Alice is stronger than a Jedi, by far. Alice is faster than a Jedi, there's no comparison. Her psionic attack/s and TK shields make Force powers look like shit. AND she possesses weaponry that the Jedi will have no chance of blocking.
And let's not forget that Alice, when fighting the Tyrant in RE2, put up a TK shield that was strong enough to hold him at bay (FF to :50 in the vid below.) The Jedi can bat away and force push away all day on her TK shield and not even dent it.
Not to mention she hurled him backwards 50 feet and through a thick ass wall with her psionic attack (FF to :54 in the above vid). She does that to a Jedi and you'll see Jedi brains all over the wall.
And in RE: Afterlife, she is no longer spent after each psionic attack.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this, FF to 7:15
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She kills a man by looking at him through a security camera.
Now. You've got 50 of them, and they can all replicate each feat I mentioned, all armed with automatic guns and grenades and shotguns. Add it up.
Uhhh...this one is an easy victory for the Alice clones.
And, jinXed by JaNx, the average speed of blaster bolts is between 80-200 Mph. (Depends on which scene you take it from.) In the trash compactor scene, in IV, it's closer to 60Mph.
We have to go by the average and not the low-end high end. The majority of the bolts travel between 80-200 Mph. These were concluded from a frame by frame analysis from the films in multiple portions.
Obi Wan wank time: BTW, one of the best if not the best reaction times shown in any of the movies was from Obi Wan Kenobi when Jango Fett opens fire on him as Obi Wan first enters the platform. He reacted AFTER the bolts were fired and those bolts traveled at 200Mph.
Anyway, there's no comparison: the clones do not have to user any of their powers and still win. They can just user their guns.
Add in their TK which is leagues beyond anything any of the force users have, and it's just overkill.
IMO, this is just a spite thread in favor of Alice and her clones.
lol No it's not because you ass clowns still cannot refute the physics that Jedi can move and manipulate matter 😂 and laser bolts are not matter, they're energy 😮💨 I was just playing your little goffball games there so you children could feel like you were able to keep up. Really now..,go try to get a bigger piece of the picture and you'll find yourselves staring a jigsaw piece while i'm framing the masterpiece. As shitty and horribly constructed the star wars universe is...,it's no where near the travesty and joke that the Resident evil/ alice, eye candy is. Alice still has to abide by the rules of science and physics. Jedi are far off on another realm dealing with men business. 🐰
Originally posted by dadudemonYou gave me an E boner.
Uhhh...this one is an easy victory for the Alice clones.And, jinXed by JaNx, the average speed of blaster bolts is between 80-200 Mph. (Depends on which scene you take it from.) In the trash compactor scene, in IV, it's closer to 60Mph.
We have to go by the average and not the low-end high end. The majority of the bolts travel between 80-200 Mph. These were concluded from a frame by frame analysis from the films in multiple portions.
Obi Wan wank time: BTW, one of the best if not the best reaction times shown in any of the movies was from Obi Wan Kenobi when Jango Fett opens fire on him as Obi Wan first enters the platform. He reacted AFTER the bolts were fired and those bolts traveled at 200Mph.
Anyway, there's no comparison: the clones do not have to user any of their powers and still win. They can just user their guns.
Add in their TK which is leagues beyond anything any of the force users have, and it's just overkill.
IMO, this is just a spite thread in favor of Alice and her clones.
I'm not trying to crash another thread here, but I do wish to point out that the Star Wars universe has slug shooters. They have "old" style weapons from 1000s of years ago that were the same as our modern weapons. They gave them up for blasters, because blasters were superior weapons.
I'd rather not get into an argument about blaster speed vs. bullet speed, but keep in mind that the first 3 movies were made back in the late 70s, early 80s. They didn't have the special effects capabilities to make blasters shoot faster on screen. Now that they do, they are forced to keep it inline with the older movies, so it doesn't look out of place. Besides, what fun would blasters be to watch, if you couldn't see the blast actually happening on screen. Bullet time wasn't invented until well after Star Wars was out.
If you want to see impressive Jedi feats, that still fit within the time frame of the movies you allow, look at these. They are not from the movies, but according to George Lucas, are still considered canon. Starkiller, sadly, is not on your list...🙁
Starkiller, between episodes 3 and 4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94-4c0eJikk
Mace Windu during the clone wars, between episodes 2 and 3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A07WNupEXk
I'm not saying I have a clue who would win, since I've never seen the full second movie, or the 3rd resident evil movie, I'm just pointing to things I know about Star Wars.