Originally posted by truejedi
Mace is also Sidious's equal?How can he be Sidious's equal AND Dooku's equal when Sidious is superior to Dooku? That makes no sense.
Mace > Dooku.
Dooku was terrified of the same sidious that Mace beat remember?
Originally posted by truejedi
Mace is also Sidious's equal?
Only in Sabers. Not in the Force. Dnt try to make them overall equals. Sidious is far more Powerful than Mace.
Originally posted by truejedi
How can he be Sidious's equal AND Dooku's equal when Sidious is superior to Dooku? That makes no sense.
Sidious is far more powerful than either of them.
Originally posted by truejedi
Mace > Dooku.
Im sure Mace would probably come out on top. But when they fought in obsession Dooku held his ground, and Dark Rendezvous called them equals in bladework. Mace would win due to Vapaad, but Dooku would give him hell first.
Originally posted by truejedi
Dooku was terrified of the same sidious that Mace beat remember?
Thats the pyschological hold Sidious had over Dooku. Doesnt say anything about their abilities. But like I already said Sidious is more powerful than either of them.
they looked pretty equal blade to blade in a comic? Aren't comics a series of pictures? How many pictures did they get blade to blade, and how can you possibly say they looked equal? The fight between Yoda and Dooku in AOTC would have made them look pretty equal according to that: After all, They cross blades for a bit, and Dooku runs away.
You are going to be hardpressed to say ANYONE looked equal blade to blade in a comic book anyway.
Originally posted by truejedi
they looked pretty equal blade to blade in a comic? Aren't comics a series of pictures? How many pictures did they get blade to blade, and how can you possibly say they looked equal? The fight between Yoda and Dooku in AOTC would have made them look pretty equal according to that: After all, They cross blades for a bit, and Dooku runs away.You are going to be hardpressed to say ANYONE looked equal blade to blade in a comic book anyway.
Dooku does not look Yoda's equal in the AOTC comic. He's falling back. Nor does he look equal to Anakin in the ROTS comic. both which only lasted a couple of pics.
The fight between Dooku and Mace lasted 5 pics. Quite long for a comic. Dooku stood his ground the entire time. In fact the last part of the fight Dooku actually forced Mace back into magna guards so Dooku could make his escape. And before you go on about him escaping, he didnt have time for a long fight with Mace, he needed to escape the planet before the Jedi caught him.
I wasnt saying they were canon. Was just responding to TJ's claim that you cant tell whose winning in a comic, and used the AOTC and ROTS comics as references.
Although the fight scenes are different in the novels as well. So does that make the novels not canon? In both the comic and the novel Dooku takes Obi-Wan out with a kick, and not a force choke like shown in the movie.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERWhat he^ said. The intermediate scenes in the novels that can take place "off-camera" or between movie scenes are allowed in, but direct contradictions are omitted. In the movie, Palpatine didn't offer Anakin the Corellian system, but as the scene transitions to Utapau before he leaves, we can divine that Anakin did go sit down and have a chat with Palpatine before returning to the Temple (the actual convo. itself never given in the book--the chapter changes).
I wasnt saying they were canon. Was just responding to TJ's claim that you cant tell whose winning in a comic, and used the AOTC and ROTS comics as references.Although the fight scenes are different in the novels as well. So does that make the novels not canon? In both the comic and the novel Dooku takes Obi-Wan out with a kick, and not a force choke like shown in the movie.
The novelizations are one of the few instances where we can pick and choose what actually happened. E.g the much more violent version of the duel in the Chancellor's office--decapitations, Anakin busting through the window--didn't happen. But the above mentioned conversation could have.
Originally posted by truejediThe novel has him coming through the window in that side chamber to find Fisto's head on the table. "Maybe he thought death was funny too."
Anakin busting through the window? He walked in the door. That pretty much goes back to canon when Anakin walks in, except for Sidious words about "You think that fear is mine?"
heck yes. I'm thinking of this fight scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU3wPWYV6HQ
starting at 30s, why couldn't something like this have been done for Sidous and a posse of attacking Jedi? The action is good, the kills would have come quickly, since they were using lightsabers instead of clubs, and nobody in this scene looks frozen. Everyone gets a "trying their best" death.
The death's of Saesee, Agen and Kit are probably the biggest travesty ever in star wars.