Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
1.41421356237309504880168872420969807856967187537694807317667973799 🙂had to do it on google, my calculater doesnt go that far
Oh you´ve not gotten the feel of the equation, the answer goes on for infinity for a start. But just think about it for a moment 2 is irrational🙂
Here´s a quote from Carl Sagan.
"So a crisis in doctrine occurred when they discovered that the square root of two was irrational. That is: the square root of two could not be represented as the ratio of two whole numbers, no matter how big they were. "Irrational" originally meant only that. That you can't express a number as a ratio. But for the Pythagoreans it came to mean something else, something threatening, a hint that their world view might not make sense, the other meaning of "irrational".
Originally posted by Bicnarok
Oh you´ve not gotten the feel of the equation, the answer goes on for infinity for a start. But just think about it for a moment 2 is irrational🙂Here´s a quote from Carl Sagan.
"So a crisis in doctrine occurred when they discovered that the square root of two was irrational. That is: the square root of two could not be represented as the ratio of two whole numbers, no matter how big they were. "Irrational" originally meant only that. That you can't express a number as a ratio. But for the Pythagoreans it came to mean something else, something threatening, a hint that their world view might not make sense, the other meaning of "irrational".
Still explainable (in fact the definiton is really really simple) and even used in mathematics. It has been over 2000 year since the Pythagoreans were the world's premiere mathematicians you know.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Still explainable (in fact the definiton is really really simple) and even used in mathematics. It has been over 2000 year since the Pythagoreans were the world's premiere mathematicians you know.
Yep, if you can call it maths. But still the maths is somehow, wrong!!
How can such an important constant like PI be an endless irrational number. Especially as it´s used to build things.🙂
Originally posted by Bicnarok
Yep, if you can call it maths. But still the maths is somehow, wrong!!How can such an important constant like PI be an endless irrational number. Especially as it´s used to build things.🙂
Because pi assumes a mathematically perfect object. In reality objects are built out of innumerable tiny corpuscles known as atoms. They are in fact so small that treating objects as being mathematically perfect is a close approximation for many purposes (but large enough that knowing pi to more than ten places is never needed for normal building projects).
There, you now have the scientific knowledge of a moderately intelligent highschooler from the 1900s. Congratulations.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Because pi assumes a mathematically perfect object. In reality objects are built out of innumerable tiny corpuscles known as atoms. They are in fact so small that treating objects as being mathematically perfect is a close approximation for many purposes (but large enough that knowing pi to more than ten places is never needed for normal building projects).There, you now have the scientific knowledge of a moderately intelligent highschooler from the 1900s. Congratulations.
are you calling me thick 💃
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
There, you now have the scientific knowledge of a moderately intelligent highschooler from the 1900s. Congratulations.
tbh, I always thought that the fact pi isn't a whole number shows an inconsistency with our mathmatical understandings versus the real world systems they are meant to represent.
though, I got Ds in highschool math, so there is that
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosWhat the hell kind of High School did you go to where,
There, you now have the scientific knowledge of a moderately intelligent highschooler from the 1900s. Congratulations.
They are in fact so small that treating objects as being mathematically perfect is a close approximation for many purposes (but large enough that knowing pi to more than ten places is never needed for normal building projects).is considered "moderate" knowledge? 😐 That isn't "moderate", that's, "only that one socially awkward kid who gets shoved into lockers would know that", knowledge. At least in High School.
Originally posted by inimalist
tbh, I always thought that the fact pi isn't a whole number shows an inconsistency with our mathmatical understandings versus the real world systems they are meant to represent.though, I got Ds in highschool math, so there is that
It sort of is a flaw in math. Mathematicians get to describe everything conceptually and sometimes the result is results that are totally unphysical.
Like imagine a solid line. Then zoom in. You see it's made of dashes. Zoom in on one of the dashes and you see they're made of smaller ones. Again and again. There is no smallest dash. But if you do this in the real world eventually you'll scan it with a really high quality electron microscope and see the individual atoms in the paper, forcing you to stop.
Impossible things show up all the time in math. The worst is probably the guy who proved that if you take apart a mathematically perfect sphere you can put it back together into three spheres.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
What the hell kind of High School did you go to where
An upper middle class one srug
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
is considered "moderate" knowledge? 😐 That isn't "moderate", that's, "only that one socially awkward kid who gets shoved into lockers would know that", knowledge. At least in High School.
In highschool you didn't know that atoms were really ****ing small?
And I didn't get shoved into lockers. I'm gigantic 😛
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
[B]An upper middle class one srugIn highschool you didn't know that atoms were really ****ing small?
You misread my post you fool. uhuh
Or maybe I should have clarified what I was saying better. uhuh
And I didn't get shoved into lockers. I'm gigantic 😛Don't say that too loudly. I hear DDM's a bit of a size queen. 😖hifty:
Originally posted by inimalist
tbh, I always thought that the fact pi isn't a whole number shows an inconsistency with our mathmatical understandings versus the real world systems they are meant to represent.though, I got Ds in highschool math, so there is that
Originally posted by Bicnarok
I wonder if "Murphys" or "Sod´s" law will ever be explained that is."Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong "
I can certainly think of numerous examples in my life, really odd things that came about to really spoil my day.
Well it's pretty obviously false. Thousands of things can go wrong for a person in any given second but they don't.
For example: I'm typing on a laptop, it could explode but it hasn't. I'm sitting on a chair, it could collapse but it hasn't. I'm breathing air, there could be a gas leak killing me but there isn't. My house is directly under the flight path of a nearby airport, there is a very real possibility that part of one of the planes could fall off, smash through the ceiling and kill me, but that hasn't happened.
Re: Unexplainable.
Originally posted by The MISTERyeah, even if humans are capable of somehow perceiving and comprehending all natural phenomena, which I doubt, we'll be extinct long before it happens.
Do you think that there's anything that will remain truly unexplainable for eternity? Right and wrong aside.