Originally posted by King Castle
i say bloodlust on his MA skills take a dive due to the suits influence.
Bruce's will power and control would limit the influence the symbiote considerably. I would say he would be considerably better off than even Peter... which is exponentially more balanced than the fragile and easily manipulated mind of Eddie Brock.
the suit isnt something that works on pure will power it allows itself to be controlled...
Brock was able to do it b/c they both had a similar dislike for parker and the suit choose to bond with eddie..
i see the suit not liking Bruce and abandoning him in mid battle or swing.... leaving him butt naked without a batline to save himself.
Ive heard that symbiotes gain powers of the previous hosts but I believe that was a fanmade theory. Venom and Carnage symbiotes possesed so many heroes, Ms. Marvel, Surder etc but they didnt gain their abilities. Its just when Parker wore it he wasnt bonded to it that well. Brock didnt gain Spider-man's powers, he simply was stronger and had simillar abilities granted by the alien.
no.. the symbiote bonded with parker long enough to steal his genetic pattern.... and then replicated the rest..
its why the spidersense dont work...
carnage is a mutated offspring of Venom with similar and warped versions of the main sym.
the main reason we dont see the suit stealing other's powers is that they arent bonded long enough for it to steal there powers and also it cant replicated every power it comes in contact with let alone energy based ones.
Originally posted by King CastleAnother possiblity could be that Parkers symbiote was some kind of blank and now it can't copy more powers. But I agree on the time factor but ONLY going by that the symbiote could become something like Amazo.
the main reason we dont see the suit stealing other's powers is that they arent bonded long enough enough for it to steal there powers and also it cant replicated every power it comes in contact with let alone energy based ones.
Originally posted by King Castle
no.. the symbiote bonded with parker long enough to steal his genetic pattern.... and then replicated the rest..its why the spidersense dont work...
carnage is a mutated offspring of Venom with similar and warped versions of the main sym.
the main reason we dont see the suit stealing other's powers is that they arent bonded long enough enough for it to steal there powers and also it cant replicated every power it comes in contact with let alone energy based ones.
Actually, that's not how it is. Anyone who gets bonded with ANY symbiote gets a strength boost, symbiotic tendrils, ability to crawl walls. Its not what Venom got from Parker. Otherwise he would've copied his spider sense as well, but he doesnt have it. The ss doesnt register him as a threat because it was in Pete's head. Symbiotes got their own kind of telepathy.
Originally posted by SamZEDthe "telepathy" it has is empathic in nature big deal... and like i said previously that their is an obvious limit to the types of abilities it can replicate but it obviously took spiderman's strength and has been said on panel that it double's the strength of its host stated by eddie brock..
Actually, that's not how it is. Anyone who gets bonded with ANY symbiote gets a strength boost, symbiotic tendrils, ability to crawl walls. Its not what Venom got from Parker. Otherwise he would've copied his spider sense as well, but he doesn't have it. The ss doesnt register him as a threat because it was in Pete's head. Symbiotes got their own kind of telepathy.
how many times has venom told spider that they have all his powers that they can do everything spiderman can and then some?
however writers choose to write venom now makes no never mind to how he was intended to be and how it gained its abilities.
Originally posted by King CastleBrock always said that the power was added to his own peak human strength, that's why old bios had him as an 11 tonner. That's how he was originally intended to be. And honestly that never made sense to me. He's clearly much stronger than that, so the theory doesnt work well. Any person who bonds to any symbiote gets simillar abilities. They cant all be Venom offsprings. It works this way, the better the bond is, the more powerful the character gets. And Brock was so close with the symbiote at some point they merged into a single being. Im not sure it'll be the same for Batman, in which case Logan simly guts him..
the "telepathy" it has is empathic in nature big deal... and like i said previously that their is an obvious limit to the types of abilities it can replicate but it obviously took spiderman's strength and has been said on panel that it double's the strength of its host stated by eddie brock..how many times has venom told spider that they have all his powers that they can do everything spiderman can and then some?
however writers choose to write venom now makes no never mind to how he was intended to be and how it gained its abilities.
Originally posted by ParmaniacHim not running out of energy could very well happen considering his new suit's supposed to have unlimited energy.
Why can't it be unlimited? We have threads with Iron Man eternaly stalemating Juggs by flying around eternaly or shooting repulsor blasts without running out of juice.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Another possiblity could be that Parkers symbiote was some kind of blank and now it can't copy more powers. But I agree on the time factor but ONLY going by that the symbiote could become something like Amazo.
That is my impression. That it incorporates the powers of it's first host into it's biology. Then each generation of the symbiote has the powers of the previous generation and the ability to incorporate the powers of a new host. But it isn't exactly clear if that is the case.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Why are we making stupid arguments? They fight at the best of their abilities. Bruce isn't losing the symbiote mid-match, and if he has full control of it, he smokes Wolverine. Way too many abilities going on for him.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganI'm talking about suggesting his suit will leave him mid match.
people were debating if he would get the same abilities to brock or if he get the abilities spiderman got (in that cases wolverine could deff win) however it was determined that he get all the abilities brock had.
If Bruce just had the resistance to the claws and the webbing he would win. If he had full abilities he would definitely win. I'm sure Mr. meant that he would have full power though.
Re: Wolverine vs Bruce Wayne w/symbiote
Originally posted by The MISTERThat's pretty much the same symbiote that Brock got only before he got him. I mean the sym doesn't changed after Spider-man got rid of him.
Current Wolverine vs Bruce Wayne wearing the original symbiote after Parkers rejection but before bonding with Eddie Brock.