Originally posted by NCRotCA
Yes, it is. It was made before an active, wide effort had been made to fit everything into continuity. S-Canon.
No not really. It was relased at around the same time that the Thrawn Triliogy came out which was when the continuity began to be constructed. Regardless, S-canon becomes C-canon if refrenced in another c-canon source and Dark Empire has been refrenced many times.
All right found it.
"Interesting that you refrain from calling me your Master."
Vader inclined his head to Sidious. "I meant nothing by it, my Master. "
Sidious sneered. "Perhaps you wish you could strike me down, is that it?"
"No, Master."
"What stops you from doing so? Obi-Wan was once your Master, and you were certainly prepared to kill him. Even if you failed."
Vader clenched his right hand. "Obi-Wan did not understand the power of the dark side."
"And you do?"
"No, Master. Not yet. Not fully."
"And that's why you don't try to strike me down? Because I possess powers you lack?" Sidious lifted his arms, hands deployed like claws, as if to summon and hurl Sith lightning. "Because you know that I could easily overwhelm the delicate electrical systems of your suit."
Vader stood his ground. "I don't fear death, Master."
Sidious grinned maliciously. "Then why go on living, my young apprentice?"
Vader looked down at him. "To learn to become more powerful."
Sidious lowered his hands. "Then I ask you one final time, Lord Vader. Why not strike me down?"
"Because you are my path to power, Master," Vader said. "Because I need you."
Sidious narrowed his eyes and nodded. "Just like I needed my Master-for a time."
"Yes, Master," Vader said finally. "For a time."
"Good. Very good." Sidious smiled in satisfaction. "And now you are ready to release your anger."
I really wouldn't take that too literally, it seems more like an exageration on Sidious's part.
If it turns out tfu canons is higher then darklord, then lightening > vader, is likely going out the window.
Considering the ammount of lightening and punishment vader takes, and then after the explosion proceeds to get right back up unhampered, even though his mask, helmet is missing, exposing his pale face with blue eyes.
Game mechanics are not canon.
And I have not read the book, but in the cutscenes, which are canon, Starkiller blasts Vader with an ungodly amount of lightning. That said Sidious's lightning is clearly more powerful as it does kill him in RotJ, however it's important to note that Vader wasn't trying to defend himself at that time.
This is of course DE Sidious whose lightning is even more ungodly than Starkillers......
Wasnt it the clone who blasted him?
Also, how much hit his lightsaber? I noticed Starkillers lightning tends to be so effective because he focuses it into one small arc, which, compressing shit tends to add more power to it in the spot it hits, Sidious sprays his a bit so its harder to block
I guess it comes down to whether or not the lightning hits the control panel, if it does Vader is dead
Originally posted by Pwned
This is of course DE Sidious whose lightning is even more ungodly than Starkillers......
Wasnt it the clone who blasted him?
Also, how much hit his lightsaber? I noticed Starkillers lightning tends to be so effective because he focuses it into one small arc, which, compressing shit tends to add more power to it in the spot it hits, Sidious sprays his a bit so its harder to block
At about 4:56...
I guess it comes down to whether or not the lightning hits the control panel, if it does Vader is dead
Well, if it short circuits the board, Vader can only breath unassisted for a few moments, after which he would die of asphyxiation
It also describes his style as "Ancient and designed to protect his center, as Grevious was forced to do"
During Vaders duel with Shryne, Shryne even realizes that if he cuts the panel, Vader will die
Of course, im arguing pretty much solely from that book so far, it contains plenty of insights into Vaders mind and style
Watch ANH, he holds the lightsaber to protect his center still
True
Main thing im saying is, if Sidious catches Vader off guard and blows the circuits in his suit, Vader, as we all know, is screwed
I doubt it would happen, but there is the chance Sidious would just lightning blitz them, hoping to do whatever damage he could
Doesnt he know how to force himself into taking over the body of others, like Bane could try to do?
Or could he just transfer his mind to other bodies?
Originally posted by Board WalkerThere's no "higher" level amidst C-canon. Just discrepancies with no answer. Sidious' line was likely just posturing to keep Vader at heel.
If it turns out tfu canons is higher then darklord, then lightening > vader, is likely going out the window.Considering the ammount of lightening and punishment vader takes, and then after the explosion proceeds to get right back up unhampered, even though his mask, helmet is missing, exposing his pale face with blue eyes.
The Force Unleashed novel has Vader being zapped by Marek, and if the the second novel follows it's corresponding game, he's gonna get an even worse treatment. Vader can take Lightning, just not Palpatine's (RotJ). Amp it up to Dark Empire, even less so. But people often forget that lighstabers can "absorb" Force Lightning (AotC). With Vader's natural Force affinity, brute strength and pain threshold, and his lightsaber, and and a powerful partner, and Palpatine's gonna need more than just Lightning. He has superior speed and technical abilities with a saber though...
I'd give this to the team. Luke circa DE defeated a cloned Palpatine in their rematch, and if Caedus is hovering around LotF Luke... with Vader by his side...
Team for sure. Maybe Vader dies, or maybe some digits and helmets are lost, but the Team wins.