Ares vs. Wolverine

Ares the God of War (Marvel)

vs.

Wolverine (Normal i.e. no vampires, demons or whatever other idiocy is going on with the X-men)

Stips: They start at a standard distance from each other. Battle takes place on a clear field. Ares has his axe and a sword. Wolverine has his standard claws.

Has Ares already beaten Wolverine once?

Ares acts like a brute no finese with his ace and sword swinging.. his healing factor isnt on par to wendigo nor Hulk's and Wolverine can work some damage on them two.. damage output that would ko, or kill Ares...

i'll give it to Wolverine 7/10 due to his agility/reflex/speed and fighting skills.

This was all there was to it:

Thanks to AlmightyKfish

All it proves is that Ares is strong enough to rock Wolverine with his hits.

Originally posted by King Castle
Ares acts like a brute no finese with his ace and sword swinging.. his healing factor isnt on par to wendigo nor Hulk's and Wolverine can work some damage on them two.. damage output that would ko, or kill Ares...

i'll give it to Wolverine 7/10 due to his agility/reflex/speed and fighting skills.

Ares vs. his son:

He might be a brute but his a skilled brute.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Gorgon is a walking plot device, who has been shown to date to be virtually unphased and unkillable by any conventional attack.

Alex has precog, and by all accounts is more skilled than Ares, even before Nick trained him. His speed / durability aren't enough to contend with Wolverine, Logan would open him up from navel to nasal and then head home.

I guess that's a no. Alex rocked him with a kick didn't he?

Alex has a limited form of precog/omniscience. Is there evidence that he knows how shit goes second for second? Because that's the kind of ability he'd need for it to make any noticeable difference in such a fight. From the limited number of Secret Warrior issues I read, his prediction didn't work that way and I've never seen his precog mentioned as a factor in any of his fights. Either way, Ares took him on.

Based on what is he more skilled than Ares?

If Alex's speed is enough to go blow for blow with Gorgon who beat the shit out of Wolverine, Ares' speed is enough to contend with Wolverine.

Hence the healing factor. If attacks from the Grasscutter can't put him down plus all the other shit he withstood, what makes you think he couldn't withstand Wolverine stabbing and slashing him?

the only comparable brick fighter that i can think of that logan has fought is DH2 and Ares is no Death Head.

Ares might be skilled but he is a brute fighter and his Healing factor isnt on par with the best..

DH is far more skilled then Ares in combat and he actually shows hit abilities and logan has bn able to severe his arm in close quarter fighting something i dont see ares growing back in mid battle and would be a sure sign of a spiral downward drop in survivability.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This was all there was to it:

Thanks to AlmightyKfish

All it proves is that Ares is strong enough to rock Wolverine with his hits.

It proves he can "rock" Wayverine... not really sure what relevance that has to the actually Wolverine written by a competent writer though.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I guess that's a no. Alex rocked him with a kick didn't he?

Alex has a limited form of precog/omniscience. Is there evidence that he knows how shit goes second for second? Because that's the kind of ability he'd need for it to make any noticeable difference in such a fight. From the limited number of Secret Warrior issues I read, his prediction didn't work that way and I've never seen his precog mentioned as a factor in any of his fights. Either way, Ares took him on.

Based on what is he more skilled than Ares?

If Alex's speed is enough to go blow for blow with Gorgon who beat the shit out of Wolverine, Ares' speed is enough to contend with Wolverine.

Hence the healing factor. If attacks from the Grasscutter can't put him down plus all the other shit he withstood, what makes you think he couldn't withstand Wolverine stabbing and slashing him?

Look at their fight, Alex is clearly more skilled than Ares. Ares is just a tank and much, much stronger.

Wolverine actually fared better against Gorgon than Alex did. Alex and Gorgon clashed swords for several panels before Alex managed to land a glancing blow, then their swords broke and he was killed... Wolverine actually connected with his first two attacks in the first panels of the fight. Wolverine got through Gorgon's guard and connect flush blows several times, something Alex never did, if that is anything it is an indication that Wolverine is faster than Alex.

to be fare the recent written stories with Wolverine dont place him at his once established levels..

but let's be honest Logan has taken on average better punches from stronger bricks shrugging them off and continuing at a high paced fight.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

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Logan gauges his opponent's strength and Striking power to the mother of them all, hulk... just saying that is a hell of standard for anyone and it shows on average his brick fighting levels is pretty impressive if he compares ppl by the hulk standard.

Roughouse? Is that the Rock Troll or am I thinking of someone else? That's about as valid to me as Spider-Man placing that Green mutant from JMS' run at nearly Hulk class and then stopping his charge.

I'm not doubting Wolverine's ability to withstand damage. I'm not arguing Ares takes this easily or anything.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Look at their fight, Alex is clearly more skilled than Ares. Ares is just a tank and much, much stronger.

Wolverine actually fared better against Gorgon than Alex did. Alex and Gorgon clashed swords for several panels before Alex managed to land a glancing blow, then their swords broke and he was killed... Wolverine actually connected with his first two attacks in the first panels of the fight. Wolverine got through Gorgon's guard and connect flush blows several times, something Alex never did, if that is anything it is an indication that Wolverine is faster than Alex.

I suggest you look at their fight. Ares outmaneuvered Alex, and outfought him when he got pissed. The only reason he didn't end it was because Alex was his son.

Glancing blow.

I know two possible scenes you might be referring to. The first one was when Wolverine surprise teleported in and jumped a Gorgon who just withstood a missile. He even had the help of Elektra. I'm not sure how you would count that.

The second scene you might be referring to is when Wolverine flies into Gorgon (By surprise again) and knocks them off the building. IIRC, Wolverine slashed at him twice and went in close (Stopped trying to match his skill) and dirty stabbing him. Impressive no doubt but I'm not sure that would make him > Alex. And wasn't this all right after Gorgon withstood the ridiculous number of attacks from Shield plus Wolverine/Elektra?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It proves he can "rock" Wayverine... not really sure what relevance that has to the actually Wolverine written by a competent writer though.

Lulz.

I'll remember that.

We'll finish this tomorrow.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Roughouse? Is that the Rock Troll or am I thinking of someone else? That's about as valid to me as Spider-Man placing that Green mutant from JMS' run at nearly Hulk class and then stopping his charge.

I'm not doubting Wolverine's ability to withstand damage. I'm not arguing Ares takes this easily or anything.

I suggest you look at their fight. Ares outmaneuvered Alex, and outfought him when he got pissed. The only reason he didn't end it was because Alex was his son.

Glancing blow.

I know two possible scenes you might be referring to. The first one was when Wolverine surprise teleported in and jumped a Gorgon who just withstood a missile. He even had the help of Elektra. I'm not sure how you would count that.

The second scene you might be referring to is when Wolverine flies into Gorgon (By surprise again) and knocks them off the building. IIRC, Wolverine slashed at him twice and went in close (Stopped trying to match his skill) and dirty stabbing him. Impressive no doubt but I'm not sure that would make him > Alex. And wasn't this all right after Gorgon withstood the ridiculous number of attacks from Shield plus Wolverine/Elektra?

I agree witth rage on this one. The only time wolvy really got licks off of gorgon was through surprise attacks. He threw gorgon off of a roof and then proceeded at attacking him. If it was a straight up fight, none of that would have happened because gorgon confrontation with both elektra and wolverine proves this when he stomped the both of them pretty easily "while" being injured.

Now can someone show me the alex and gorgon fight.

As for the fight, ares is a different type of brick... he has speed, fighting skill, healing factor, high end durability, and super strength.

I honestly believe this is a good fight and I am giving it a 5/5 split because it could go either way.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It proves he can "rock" Wayverine... not really sure what relevance that has to the actually Wolverine written by a competent writer though.

dude fought gray hulk and held his own, and that's wolverine back in the day without the crazy healing factor

I forgot about Gorgon's telepathy. IIRC it allows him to read the minds and moves of individuals did it not? Which is why Wolverine had psy blockers given to him by SHIELD. As far as I know, Alex did not have such equipment. If he wasn't mentally shielded, that's another plus for him.

Ares , ares has only ever been killed twice , once by senty and another time by warrior madness thor both who are much above wolverine.

ares is also faster he has tagged people like sentry , and hermes both who can go roughly the speed of light. he also tagged nate grey even after he slowed down time around him and made everyone else statues(similar to zoom) and he concluded there was no way he could stop ares.
also ares beat balder , who has been shown to catch bullets with his sword and redirect them

that and also the fact he can beat up skarr , abomination, and colossus, all who would beat down wolverine

Probably Wolverine.