Originally posted by quanchi112
Prime never wrecked every hero on earth, he fled, and got beat up and was backed up by the sinestro corps.
Every one that mattered lmao. He pre-gamed while weakened and sunlight starved and took on every icon on DC Earth while weakened. Then sunlight touched his hand and he flung off like two jla incarnations, the jsa and a bunch of others like they were nothing, raped ion, and got bored... so he decided to take on the sinestro corps and finish off the AM and fling him into space....
Oh and then he took on the Guardians and was taking everything they had to offer like it was water gun fight and beating on all of them until one sacrificed his immortal life to bfr him... but that didn't work for long, it just amped him and he casually punched his way through different parts of the multiverse. Thats a whole other story.
Originally posted by Sirius77He was getting manhandled by the heroes and never defeated any legit top tier there the entire battle.
Every one that mattered lmao. He pre-gamed while weakened and sunlight starved and took on every icon on DC Earth while weakened. Then sunlight touched his hand and he flung off like two jla incarnations, the jsa and a bunch of others like they were nothing, raped ion, and got bored... so he decided to take on the sinestro corps and finish off the AM and fling him into space....Oh and then he took on the Guardians and was taking everything they had to offer like it was water gun fight and beating on all of them until one sacrificed his immortal life to [B]bfr
him... but that didn't work for long, it just amped him and he casually punched his way through different parts of the multiverse. Thats a whole other story. [/B]
Most of this was an entire battle where he took out no named sinestro members and bfr'd an almost dead Am. Context.
Void was easily tanking on gangs of heroes and owning them. He killed Loki like he was a minor leaguer. he wasn't running scared like Prime did either when he saw a flash.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was getting manhandled by the heroes and never defeated any legit top tier there the entire battle.
So Superman, Ion Yat, Wonderwoman, the new Red Tornado and Alan Scott, are not a top-tiers... and neither is a guardian?
Keep in mind this isn't even LO3W...
Originally posted by quanchi112
Most of this was an entire battle where he took out no named sinestro members and bfr'd an almost dead Am. Context.
The same blasts from the Guardians that were hurting the AM, Superboy-prime recovered from and laughed at. He flew through the chest of the AM and was exposed to the same antimatter energy that nearly killed a guardian and then he bfred the AM like he was nothing. I know the context, and I explained it to you yet again because you obviously didnt read the comic and only looked at scans.
Yeah he did take out some no name SC members and some no name gl members, and some earth heroes, and again, a guardian.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Void was easily tanking on gangs of heroes and owning them. He killed Loki like he was a minor leaguer. he wasn't running scared like Prime did either when he saw a flash.
Void wasn't weakened was he? Also, Superboy-prime would do the exact same. Also, it wasn't one Flash... it was two, and he knocked them away quicker than they could react... while weakened.
Originally posted by Sirius77I was discussing this instance prior to him being powered up in reference to him not beating any impressive top tiers.
So Superman, Ion Yat, Wonderwoman, the new Red Tornado and Alan Scott, are not a top-tiers... and neither is a guardian?Keep in mind this isn't even LO3W...
The same blasts from the Guardians that were hurting the AM, Superboy-prime recovered from and laughed at. He flew through the chest of the AM and was exposed to the same antimatter energy that nearly killed a guardian and then he bfred the AM like he was nothing. I know the context, and I explained it to you yet again because you obviously didnt read the comic and only looked at scans.
Yeah he did take out some no name SC members and some no name gl members, and some earth heroes, and again, a guardian.
Void wasn't weakened was he? Also, Superboy-prime would do the exact same. Also, it wasn't one Flash... it was two, and he knocked them away quicker than they could react... while weakened.
The guardian also killed himself that's not the same thing as Prime defeating one anyways.
Am was barely phased at all by Guardian blasts and Prime was unable to break free from a guardian's grip while he was scared as well.
Am was weakened and he didn't kill any Guardians in this weakened state which Prime flew through him making it a moot point.
I read the comic and know it better than you do. A guardian choosing to take his own life isn't Prime defeating one. LOL.
Nope, not at all. Prime wouldn't do the exact same nor has he. Void has powers and feats that would make Prime blush. Prime fled from the flashes and was never shown to be faster than the flashes.
Originally posted by quanchi112Flashes would speedforce trap voidtry too. horse
I was discussing this instance prior to him being powered up in reference to him not beating any impressive top tiers.The guardian also killed himself that's not the same thing as Prime defeating one anyways.
Am was barely phased at all by Guardian blasts and Prime was unable to break free from a guardian's grip while he was scared as well.
Am was weakened and he didn't kill any Guardians in this weakened state which Prime flew through him making it a moot point.
I read the comic and know it better than you do. A guardian choosing to take his own life isn't Prime defeating one. LOL.
Nope, not at all. Prime wouldn't do the exact same nor has he. Void has powers and feats that would make Prime blush. Prime fled from the flashes and was never shown to be faster than the flashes.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I was discussing this instance prior to him being powered up in reference to him not beating any impressive top tiers.
I was talking about him being energy starved. He took down Wonderwoman, the new Red Tornado, and two Flashes.
Again, I'm using his weakest showings and not borrowing from LO3W.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The guardian also killed himself that's not the same thing as Prime defeating one anyways.
If someone is so out of options that they kill themselves to bfr you, then that is a win.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Am was barely phased at all by Guardian blasts and Prime was unable to break free from a guardian's grip while he was scared as well.
Their blasts were knocking off his armor and brought him to his knee. I just looked at the panel.
The guardian caught him by surprise, grabbed Superboy-prime's hand at the last minute, all of the other guardians surrounded him, trapped him, and teleported him out of the multiverse.
Of course he was scared. He's some kid from a destroyed universe that just had a dying little blue man grab his hand, glow green and have his little friends surround him and do the same. His emotions are irrelevant. What is relevant is the fact that it took the death of a guardian and the help of the others to even remove him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Am was weakened and he didn't kill any Guardians in this weakened state which Prime flew through him making it a moot point.
The only thing that was breached was his armor. I did the same thing that Superboy-prime's did. Collect energy. Yes, he was shaken and injured, he survived a galaxy busting explosion, but he still stood up to fight the guardians. That's when he got his chest blown open and got thrown into the Black Lantern Battery.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I read the comic and know it better than you do. A guardian choosing to take his own life isn't Prime defeating one. LOL.
Apparently you didn't read anything. You just lowball characters and make fallacious troll-esk arguments and mistake it for a reasonable argument.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Nope, not at all. Prime wouldn't do the exact same nor has he. Void has powers and feats that would make Prime blush. Prime fled from the flashes and was never shown to be faster than the flashes.
Name some of these feats. No, actually just name two.
Of course he fled from the flashes. He has a phobia for them in the same way that someone has a fear for the dark (which he also has a phobia) or something.
He blitzed three of them in ic, brushed Wally aside while weakened in sc like he didn't matter, and in ic beat Bart with a speed force amp back to the present. Again, I haven't used any feats from LO3W.
Originally posted by Sirius77Red Tornado is not very impressive and when did he soundly defeat WW ?
I was talking about him being energy starved. He took down Wonderwoman, the new Red Tornado, and two Flashes.Again, I'm using his weakest showings and not borrowing from LO3W.
If someone is so out of options that they kill themselves to [B]bfr
you, then that is a win.Their blasts were knocking off his armor and brought him to his knee. I just looked at the panel.
The guardian caught him by surprise, grabbed Superboy-prime's hand at the last minute, all of the other guardians surrounded him, trapped him, and teleported him out of the multiverse.
Of course he was scared. He's some kid from a destroyed universe that just had a dying little blue man grab his hand, glow green and have his little friends surround him and do the same. His emotions are irrelevant. What is relevant is the fact that it took the death of a guardian and the help of the others to even remove him.
The only thing that was breached was his armor. I did the same thing that Superboy-prime's did. Collect energy. Yes, he was shaken and injured, he survived a galaxy busting explosion, but he still stood up to fight the guardians. That's when he got his chest blown open and got thrown into the Black Lantern Battery.
Apparently you didn't read anything. You just lowball characters and make fallacious troll-esk arguments and mistake it for a reasonable argument.
Name some of these feats. No, actually just name two.
Of course he fled from the flashes. He has a phobia for them in the same way that someone has a fear for the dark (which he also has a phobia) or something.
He blitzed three of them in ic, brushed Wally aside while weakened in sc like he didn't matter, and in ic beat Bart with a speed force amp back to the present. Again, I haven't used any feats from LO3W. [/B]
He also ran from the flashes because he is scared of them.
They weren't out of options this was the option this one chose that isn't a win anyways for Prime since he was bfr'd. He was unable to break free showing one guardian has the strength to grab him and hold him somewhere.
Reread it again Am wasn't phased at all until the gl's megabombed him. We saw his grip was more than powerful enough to keep Prime in check. We saw him scared again like he has been in the past.
Guardians will self sacrifice I mean I have seen more impressive showings against gl's and what not from a pre dos DD with a gl ring than Prime here. Prime was easily defeated by one guardian. One touch from a not weakened Am killed one. This isn't impressive.
He was heavily damaged due to the blast you can downplay it all you want but Prime just bfr'd a half dead Am. If he did so while fully powered then you'd have something a lot more impressive but since he didn't then you really don't have much.
Guardians have done this before this isn't proof of Prime being greater than the guardians. You can call it whatever you like I am correct you aren't.
Overpowering MM. Ripping Loki in half.
He has a phobia since they defeated him and there was nothing he could do to stop this that's why.
He didn't blitz any of them he reacted to them but was still defeated and didn't take any of them. You don't even know what blitz means.
Go ahead and use losh showings he had aid the entire time and was getting worked by a flash there as well.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Red Tornado is not very impressive and when did he soundly defeat WW ?He also ran from the flashes because he is scared of them.
You don't know anything about red tornado quan. Also, he defeated Wonder woman at the beginning of the Earth battle of sc at night while he was weakened and had his armor ripped off. If you look at the crater, you'll see Wonder woman, Cassandra, and Starfire, and hourman, whose limp body he tossed into a tree.
We already covered the Flash issue. He ran from an amped Bart and beat him to the present. That is a feat, it doesnt matter if he was scared or not. To be honest, you'd be an idiot if you weren't afraid of the Flash, even at Superboy-prime's level.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They weren't out of options this was the option this one chose that isn't a win anyways for Prime since he was bfr'd. He was unable to break free showing one guardian has the strength to grab him and hold him somewhere.
Because an immortal Guardian chooses to kamikaze himself when he has other options. Okay quan.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Reread it again Am wasn't phased at all until the gl's megabombed him. We saw his grip was more than powerful enough to keep Prime in check. We saw him scared again like he has been in the past.
I don't need to reread it again. I'm not going to narrate this to you like a bedtime story. He was being continually blasted by the Guardians, they had him on one knee with pieces of his armor falling off and then said "screw it" and dropped the battery on him. It didn't work, so Superboy-prime finished him off along with some of both corps.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Guardians will self sacrifice I mean I have seen more impressive showings against gl's and what not from a pre dos DD with a gl ring than Prime here. Prime was easily defeated by one guardian. One touch from a not weakened Am killed one. This isn't impressive.
DD is a whole different animal. Completely different powerset, I dont even know why you brought him into this thread as if he's some kind of lower being here lol.
One guardian that died to bfr him?
When has a touch from a weakened AM killed a guardian? You really didn't read this did you, you just looked at the scans. 😆
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was heavily damaged due to the blast you can downplay it all you want but Prime just bfr'd a half dead Am. If he did so while fully powered then you'd have something a lot more impressive but since he didn't then you really don't have much.
It has been stated that the suit is just a container to collect energy. Thats really it. I'm not saying that he wasn't hurt by a galaxy busting blast, but he was well enough to keep fighting, and the antimatter that was scarring guardians on contact, Superboy-prime flew right through it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Guardians have done this before this isn't proof of Prime being greater than the guardians. You can call it whatever you like I am correct you aren't.
😂 I can understand why you'd be butthurt. Just read the comic and we won't have this problem.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Overpowering MM. Ripping Loki in half.
Overpowering MM? Really? Okay, then I'll use Superman-prime overpowering Mxy. Because obviously Myx and MM aren't jobbing in these instances. 🙄
He ripped Loki in half? Superboy-prime retconned DC creation with a punch while apparently weakened. Anymore?
Originally posted by quanchi112
He has a phobia since they defeated him and there was nothing he could do to stop this that's why.
They dragged him into the speed force and he actually escaped. Despite there being no yellow sunlight and despite not being a speed force user... and then he beat an amped Bart back to the present. None of these are low feats. Being dragged into the Speed force by like three flashes (and one technically dead one), again, is not a low feat.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He didn't blitz any of them he reacted to them but was still defeated and didn't take any of them. You don't even know what blitz means.
Alright. Here are some scans.
I should probably not post these, because they seem to be all that you read, ignoring the actual source itself, but meh. Here you go.
Flash #6 I believe
http://img97.imageshack.us/f/prime5jb.jpg/
Originally posted by quanchi112
Go ahead and use losh showings he had aid the entire time and was getting worked by a flash there as well.
I might, but I don't think I'll need to really. Just so that you know, because I'm guessing you didn't read it, they needed his help, not the other way around. That was a major part of the plot. Even Mordru couldn't affect him. The entire series was essentially him hatebanging Superman the entire time until he was defeated... by himself.
Originally posted by Sirius77I know red tornado would get his ass chewed in two by Thor or Superman as well. WW was hit she wasn't defeated. There's a huge difference, sport.
You don't know anything about red tornado quan. Also, he defeated Wonder woman at the beginning of the Earth battle of sc at night while he was weakened and had his armor ripped off. If you look at the crater, you'll see Wonder woman, Cassandra, and Starfire, and hourman, whose limp body he tossed into a tree.We already covered the Flash issue. He ran from an amped Bart and beat him to the present. That is a feat, it doesnt matter if he was scared or not. To be honest, you'd be an idiot if you weren't afraid of the Flash, even at Superboy-prime's level.
Because an immortal Guardian chooses to kamikaze himself when he has other options. Okay quan.
I don't need to reread it again. I'm not going to narrate this to you like a bedtime story. He was being continually blasted by the Guardians, they had him on one knee with pieces of his armor falling off and then said "screw it" and dropped the battery on him. It didn't work, so Superboy-prime finished him off along with some of both corps.
DD is a whole different animal. Completely different powerset, I dont even know why you brought him into this thread as if he's some kind of lower being here lol.
One guardian that died to bfr him?
When has a touch from a weakened AM killed a guardian? You really didn't read this did you, you just looked at the scans. 😆
It has been stated that the suit is just a container to collect energy. Thats really it. I'm not saying that he wasn't hurt by a galaxy busting blast, but he was well enough to keep fighting, and the antimatter that was scarring guardians on contact, Superboy-prime flew right through it.
😂 I can understand why you'd be butthurt. Just read the comic and we won't have this problem.
Overpowering MM? Really? Okay, then I'll use Superman-prime overpowering Mxy. Because obviously Myx and MM aren't jobbing in these instances. 🙄
He ripped Loki in half? Superboy-prime retconned DC creation with a punch while apparently weakened. Anymore?
They dragged him into the speed force and he actually escaped. Despite there being no yellow sunlight and despite not being a speed force user... and then he beat an amped Bart back to the present. None of these are low feats. Being dragged into the Speed force by like three flashes (and one technically dead one), again, is not a low feat.
Alright. Here are some scans.
I should probably not post these, because they seem to be all that you read, ignoring the actual source itself, but meh. Here you go.
Flash #6 I believe
http://img97.imageshack.us/f/prime5jb.jpg/
I might, but I don't think I'll need to really. Just so that you know, because I'm guessing you didn't read it, they needed his help, not the other way around. That was a major part of the plot. Even Mordru couldn't affect him. The entire series was essentially him hatebanging Superman the entire time until he was defeated... by [B]himself
. [/B]
No, if you had the Void's powers you wouldn't be afraid of the flash but I agree with Prime's powers he should be scared.
That was the quickest way and they usually are quite idiotic I mean they weren't effective against the Am.
The bomb did work but he was still barely alive and was easily bfr'd in this condition from Prime. End of story, sport.
DD is a dumb brick who can't think yet he posed a huge threat to the entire corps while vastly weaker than his dos version with a gl ring.
The guardian Am touched later died from this touch. Not my fault you're ignorant on this. I am just more knowledgeable than you are. 🙂
If you want to deny that blast really hurt him severely then you live in your own world and won't listen to reason. Not my problem.
So because I correct your inaccuracies I am butthurt. Guess you don't know what butthurt means either. LOL.
Prime had a mage Annataz doing this to him. LOL, context. It will get you everytime. Prime needed someone else to do so Void did this on his own.
Prime's punch only had this effect due to Luthor's tampering of reality just like Superman's battle which affected reality in infinite crisis. Context, kiddo.
I never said it was a low feat it was a straight l though. Sure he came back but still know fears the flashes.
This is Prime getting teed off on nothing impressive,
Mordru blasted him twice that isn't the same as bing completely immune to him. He was poisoned with k-nite and effected by the darkness he needed aid. LOL.
I'll make this quick quan, because I really don't have time for this. Maybe some other time bud.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I know red tornado would get his ass chewed in two by Thor or Superman as well. WW was hit she wasn't defeated. There's a huge difference, sport.No, if you had the Void's powers you wouldn't be afraid of the flash but I agree with Prime's powers he should be scared.
That was the quickest way and they usually are quite idiotic I mean they weren't effective against the Am.
The bomb did work but he was still barely alive and was easily bfr'd in this condition from Prime. End of story, sport.
Wonderwoman was defeated. She was knocked out and in a crater and didnt come back until near the end of the book. Sport.
It doesn't matter if he's scared or not, they'd take him into the speed force too. Emotions are irrelevant in this quan. You're just grasping.
Yeah the bombe exploded, he got up pissed and Prime bfred him. I'm glad that we can agree.
Originally posted by quanchi112
DD is a dumb brick who can't think yet he posed a huge threat to the entire corps while vastly weaker than his dos version with a gl ring.The guardian Am touched later died from this touch. Not my fault you're ignorant on this. I am just more knowledgeable than you are. 🙂
If you want to deny that blast really hurt him severely then you live in your own world and won't listen to reason. Not my problem.
A dumb brick that can adapt to anything and punch energy. Right. Check. Really low showing for the no name gls that he swatted.
She didn't die from his touch, that merely started a "chain reaction". Maybe you can understand now. You seem to love those. Sure you are quan.
Wow. so you don't read the comics you argue or the posts you respond to? You seem to be on a role quan. Reread my post.
" I'm not saying that he wasn't hurt by a galaxy busting blast, but he was well enough to keep fighting, and the antimatter that was scarring guardians on contact, Superboy-prime flew right through it."
Reading comprehension. Sport.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Prime had a mage Annataz doing this to him. LOL, context. It will get you everytime. Prime needed someone else to do so Void did this on his own.Prime's punch only had this effect due to Luthor's tampering of reality just like Superman's battle which affected reality in infinite crisis. Context, kiddo.
I never said it was a low feat it was a straight l though. Sure he came back but still know fears the flashes.
This is Prime getting teed off on nothing impressive,
Prime threatened to kill Anataz if she didn't do what he said. She was afraid of him, so don't even try to argue that she's over Myx. Apparently you didn't get my point. It's ridiculous in both instances. Prime should have been shit stomped by Myx and Sentry should shit stomped by Owen. You have no concept of reason quan.
No. Luthor empowered him after the actual punch. Prior to that he was weakened. That is the context.
Again, emotion is not the issue here. If so we can address Sentry's "emotional issues".
All except it is impressive. He got "teed off" and blitzed like three flashes before they could react. Again, stop trying to use semantics to lowball and downplay feats.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Mordru blasted him twice that isn't the same as bing completely immune to him. He was poisoned with k-nite and effected by the darkness he needed aid. LOL.
Being blasted twice by someone that controls all of the magic in the cosmos to no effect. Right. Not impressive at all.
Seriously though, he was completely immune to him, and any other magic that he has ever encountered. This should be common knowledge by this point. He says it and proves it in like every comic in which he appears.
He was poisoned by kryptonite from his universe. Then he flung it through the only person that could create it. Then once he realized Bart was coming back, he broke out of the darkness somehow and then blasted through Brainiac 5's sheilds like they were nothing.
