Colossus vs Dracula

Their numbers weren't all that big to begin with since the vamps only had a singly lycan birth, and that was Lucian. THe others were made through bites. So escaping did cut down on a lot of the lycan numbers, and a lot of the vamp numbers as well. Lucian wanted to bolster their ranks, and he thought Viktor was dead so he had some breathing room.

Simple fact is, one on one, a werewolf vs a vamp of equal age/power...means the werewolf wins.

Originally posted by KingD19
Their numbers weren't all that big to begin with since the vamps only had a singly lycan birth, and that was Lucian. THe others were made through bites. So escaping did cut down on a lot of the lycan numbers, and a lot of the vamp numbers as well. Lucian wanted to bolster their ranks, and he thought Viktor was dead so he had some breathing room.

Simple fact is, one on one, a werewolf vs a vamp of equal age/power...means the werewolf wins.

Viktor was also older then Raz which made him stronger... and Lucian was younger then viktor and he beat him during the uprising...

Originally posted by King Castle
Viktor was also older then Raz which made him stronger... and Lucian was younger then viktor and he beat him during the uprising...

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Considering how easily Viktor killed Raze I'd go with the vampire of equal age.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You don't think it isn't possible that Raze was weakened by all the lashings from the silver whips?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Come again?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Raze had just gotten finished fighting Craven's bodyguard, who had hit Raze a bunch of times with a pair of silver whips.

he's saying he was tired and beaten and viktor killed him when he wasnt at his best..

also Vik looked pretty refreshed to me when he went to face the lycans

Yea, Raze was tired and beaten and Vik was refreshed....that's gotta be it.

I'm pretty sure that's sarcasm, but it's true. Raze had just been beaten multiple times and still had gouges of flesh torn out from the whips. Viktor had killed maybe 2 start up lycans before that.

I'm not saying that Raze would have beaten Viktor, just that it bears thinking whether he was at his best when he attacked Vik.

Yeah, it's like William vs Micheal. Micheal probably still would've won because he was a hybrid, but William had been deprived of nourishment for around 800 years, and was nowhere near full strength. If he was, he more than likely still would've lost, but the fight would've been a lot better.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Viktor took Raz out with one hand and Raz was the 2nd in command iirc. And Raz as a human was able to fend off the vicious Lycans. It was a joke....get it....suck.

Better have been a joke. I know there is a big Underworld fan around here somewhere.

Raze as a human was knocking lycans around him as a werewolf would make him uber and he was a knat to Vik.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm not saying that Raze would have beaten Viktor, just that it bears thinking whether he was at his best when he attacked Vik.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Raze as a human was knocking lycans around him as a werewolf would make him uber and he was a knat to Vik.

Apparently you don't get it. Vampires grow more powerful with age, Viktor was an Elder. That meant he was one of the 3 oldest Vampires, Markus being the original, and Amelia being the other. As such, he was the 2nd most powerful vamp in the trilogy. He was already hundreds of years old by the time Raze was turned, and when he was awakened early by Selene, he was even more powerful as he was at least another hundred years old after Amelias reign.

Raze was the 2nd strongest Lycan, as Lucian turned him and his strength was enhanced by the transformation, but even though Lycans grow with age like vampires, Raze was too young to be a major threat to Viktor. The fight probably would've been a lot better had he not moments before fighting Viktor, been flogged for a good few minutes with silver bullwhips. And yes, he was weakened. Viktor on the other hand, was fresh seeing as how he'd just woken up and had a good drink of Selene's blood.

Viktor was awoken too early in his slumber to be fully rejuvinated.

A Lycan or Vampire's strength is very much based on their character.
Their age and Generation.

Souldn't this be in the Movie forum?

Originally posted by King Castle
standard ones suck, only good one was the hybrid brother dude: Marcus

Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah, it's like William vs Micheal. Micheal probably still would've won because he was a hybrid, but William had been deprived of nourishment for around 800 years, and was nowhere near full strength. If he was, he more than likely still would've lost, but the fight would've been a lot better.