Sorry to bump the thread, but I really don't see team 2 winning the majority...
As for Vulcan, I don't see him draining either of team 1 quick enough
In my opinion, the main problem for team 1 would be Black Bolt, and with him on team 2, I do think team 2 can pull some wins (4/10)
As for team 1 , if morals off then it's possible that they would choose for a blitz so I'll give them 6/10
Originally posted by AbelAnderson
Sorry to bump the thread, but I really don't see team 2 winning the majority...
As for Vulcan, I don't see him draining either of team 1 quick enough
In my opinion, the main problem for team 1 would be Black Bolt, and with him on team 2, I do think team 2 can pull some wins (4/10)
As for team 1 , if morals off then it's possible that they would choose for a blitz so I'll give them 6/10
Hmmm. Black Bolt can take a serious beating and keep coming as evidenced by his Thanos showing. He also has top tier damage output with hos voice (should he go that route) and is a decent h2h combatant. He would be a good challenge for Diana with a split for both. If it went either way I wouldnt be upset. Clark on the other hand is stronger and can take a lot. He's a tier above BB in my opinion and though hed struggle he should win a majority against him.
Vulcan is an odd duck. He's did ok against Black Bolt, Havok (while amped), and ragdolled the Imperial Guard and Quasar but he got one shot by Gladiator. So Im thinking he's good at taking on energy based beings but not so much against high end bricks. IF he can drain supes i dont think hed do it before Clark turns up the heat and KOs him. If he can't then he would be the first to go as I dont favor him in long drawn out h2h battles. Clarks a tank so hed barrel thru any of Vulcans blasts.
Diana also would be a bad matchup for Vulcan. She's a better h2h combatant, she's fast and has no weakness to exploit. Shed take a majority on him 1 on 1.
Originally posted by Sin I AMBlack Bolt never came back from a Thanos beating. He got ragdolled and put down in one hit.
Hmmm. Black Bolt can take a serious beating and keep coming as evidenced by his Thanos showing. He also has top tier damage output with hos voice (should he go that route) and is a decent h2h combatant. He would be a good challenge for Diana with a split for both. If it went either way I wouldnt be upset. Clark on the other hand is stronger and can take a lot. He's a tier above BB in my opinion and though hed struggle he should win a majority against him.Vulcan is an odd duck. He's did ok against Black Bolt, Havok (while amped), and ragdolled the Imperial Guard and Quasar but he got one shot by Gladiator. So Im thinking he's good at taking on energy based beings but not so much against high end bricks. IF he can drain supes i dont think hed do it before Clark turns up the heat and KOs him. If he can't then he would be the first to go as I dont favor him in long drawn out h2h battles. Clarks a tank so hed barrel thru any of Vulcans blasts.
Diana also would be a bad matchup for Vulcan. She's a better h2h combatant, she's fast and has no weakness to exploit. Shed take a majority on him 1 on 1.
Anyhow team DC wins
Originally posted by Insane Titan
Black Bolt never came back from a Thanos beating. He got ragdolled and put down in one hit.Anyhow team DC wins
I didnt remember it that way. Could be wrong though. That aside BB can take some punishment. Iirc thanos was also affected by his voice. Although admittedly he wasnt on the ropes.
Don't see how team 2 wins the CIS off fight. Even though I believe it is PIS a majority of the time when a character fails to use their speed, a lot of people here seem to think it's CIS and if that is off..well, Black Bolt and Vulcan are kinda screwed.
Superman has a virtual eternity to attack, from his POV.
Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
.you cant be serious ww doesnt solo this team
vulcan an omega lvl mutant and black bolt is a high end herald
with that being said supes and ww still win but neither one of them is soloing
Suppose it depends on how fast this version of WW is compared to her post crisis version. Since yes she could indeed solo if she has comparable speed...with CIS off, that is.
Originally posted by Surtur
Suppose it depends on how fast this version of WW is compared to her post crisis version. Since yes she could indeed solo if she has comparable speed...with CIS off, that is.
i dont think shes soloing black bolt and vulcan both have way to much raw power ... one thing i guess i really dont know is her durability feats to really make a clear argument
Originally posted by Surtur
PIS is off and CIS is off so why is Superman not using his speed right away? Especially when one of the other people more or less just has to speak in order to inflict massage amounts of damage?
Pis is always off. I dont get y that's even mentioned on these boards as the threads created here arent generally or really ever plot based. Cis off means characters fight to the best of their abilities while still fighting in character. For one, why would he speedblitz a character he knows nothing about (there's little to no public knowledge about Vulcan so of course SM wouldnt know anything) and two, how often has he done so (since we go by average portrayals)?
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Pis is always off. I dont get y that's even mentioned on these boards as the threads created here arent generally or really ever plot based. Cis off means characters fight to the best of their abilities while still fighting in character. For one, why would he speedblitz a character he knows nothing about (there's little to no public knowledge about Vulcan so of course SM wouldnt know anything) and two, how often has he done so (since we go by average portrayals)?
CiS off does not mean that he fights to the best of his ability.
They always fight to the best of their ability.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Pis is always off. I dont get y that's even mentioned on these boards as the threads created here arent generally or really ever plot based. Cis off means characters fight to the best of their abilities while still fighting in character. For one, why would he speedblitz a character he knows nothing about (there's little to no public knowledge about Vulcan so of course SM wouldnt know anything) and two, how often has he done so (since we go by average portrayals)?
I know PIS is always off. I'm just saying that the only other thing that would prevent the usage of speed is off, and CIS has been specifically turned off for a fight.
Can you explain to me why Superman would want to prolong a fight if he can end it very quickly?
Also why would someone turn CIS off unless they want characters going all out? I'm confused.
Originally posted by Surtur
I know PIS is always off. I'm just saying that the only other thing that would prevent the usage of speed is off, and CIS has been specifically turned off for a fight.Can you explain to me why Superman would want to prolong a fight if he can end it very quickly?
Also why would someone turn CIS off unless they want characters going all out? I'm confused.
Ending a fight quickly and bullrushing someone is two different things. He can fight smart..size his opponent up and go for the ko. What he wont do is charge in swinging wildly not knowing Vulcans capabilities.
Originally posted by mighty adam
I believe supes and ww take the majority. Vulcan got beat bad by glads who would get raped by supes. Ww, hulk, black adam, etc. Vulcan cant handle bricks but i think he can give gl hal a great fight. If this was bb and thor this would be beater fight.
That wasn't why Vulcan lost to Gladiator. Superman is an entirely different character than Gladiator. Gladiator may possibly be Marvel's best Superman clone as far as power set goes, but what fuels them is entirely different. Vulcan would rip the solar power from Superman, or make it eat him alive. Black Bolt would simply have to get close enough to Wonder Woman to grapple her, and all he'd need do is open his mouth. Team 2 could easily win this.