Wonder Woman Vs Ares (MU)

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Depowered ww would have a hard time with ares

she is pretty much street level now

More than street, meta range I'd say, but it's hard to tell what her new strength/toughness level is precisely.

I hate it when a writer sets someone at a new power level then doesn't tell us what it is so we know whether a new foe they fight (superstrong immortal burned guy!) is impressive to take down or not.

I'm not exactly sure how she'd do against MU Ares. A fight at the least, she has some speed, her bracers, and the lasso and flight now.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
ares is an actual god 😕, if anything, wonder woman is a wannabe god..

She's the champion of the Greek Pantheon (and more specifically, Athena and Aphrodite) and invested with their gifts.

A lot like Captain Marvel, really.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
laugh all you want, ares is zeus son, the amazon are just creations of the the gods

Yea, but Diana's way more than the other Amazons, being an amazon is just the starting point.

Other than the Asguardians I like the Manidog, theNative American pantheon, the best.

My biggest grip about Marvel's treatment of gods? Thor doesn't have red hair and lacks a beard. Tough guys don't have blond hair. 😎

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The Norse Pantheon were fleshed out in Marvel first. And I like them better.
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the olympions were introduced in 1940 the norse were introduced in 1965, so the norse werent introduced untill 25 years later 😛

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
how exactly are the asgardians being toned down?

you do know that the olympion and asgardian pantheons stalemated each other in silver age right?

How are they not? Regular Asgardians are complete cannon fodder. Even the unique abilities that named Asgardians use to have has been lost. Most people have probably forgotten Sif has the ability to warp space and is a teleporter. Heimdall doesn't have his ability to generate cosmic energy, Balder doesn't have his invulnerability anymore. IIRC, Volstagg even had the ability to increase his weight but that might have been a later on revelation.

Yea, the Asgardian and Olympian pantheons stalemated during the Thomas era I believe. Doesn't help your point.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
actually after looking that up its the total opposite

the olympions were introduced in 1940 the norse were introduced in 1965, so the norse werent introduced untill 25 years later 😛

Where did you look it up? Because as far as I know the Olympians were introduced in Journey into the Mystery Annual #1 ignoring the early Hercules introduced in the fourth or fifth Avenger's issue.

And I'm positive the Asgardians -at least Thor- were introduced in 1962.

Or are you counting the pre-Marvel continuity? Timely comics I believe was the name.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How are they not? Regular Asgardians are complete cannon fodder. Even the unique abilities that named Asgardians use to have has been lost. Most people have probably forgotten Sif has the ability to warp space and is a teleporter. Heimdall doesn't have his ability to generate cosmic energy, Balder doesn't have his invulnerability anymore. IIRC, Volstagg even had the ability to increase his weight but that might have been a later on revelation.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Where did you look it up? Because as far as I know the Olympians were introduced in Journey into the Mystery Annual #1 ignoring the early Hercules introduced in the fourth or fifth Avenger's issue.

And I'm positive the Asgardians -at least Thor- were introduced in 1962.

Or are you counting the pre-Marvel continuity? Timely comics I believe was the name.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Where did you look it up? Because as far as I know the Olympians were introduced in Journey into the Mystery Annual #1 ignoring the early Hercules introduced in the fourth or fifth Avenger's issue.

And I'm positive the Asgardians -at least Thor- were introduced in 1962.

Or are you counting the pre-Marvel continuity? Timely comics I believe was the name.

Zeus had an appearance in Timely Comics era. A flimsy connection to Marvel continuity Zeus at best, that doesn't exactly over rule your assertion that the Asguardians were fleshed out first.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
they were introduced in the Daring Mystery Comics #6 (September 1940), why would you ignore the early hercules by the way?

So the Timely Comics publisher. Journey Into the Mystery is considered to be the first appearance of the Olympians in Marvel comics as far as I know. Besides, like Skrank said, it doesn't refute my argument that the Asgardians were fleshed out first.

Because they clearly chose to revamp Hercules for his appearance in Thor. As a fan of all things Olympian, you should be all for it.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
that didnt happen to make other pantheons shine, thats just writers ignoring stuff, if they were in chaos war they actually would of been toned up, just look at thor

Who said that was my argument?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Who said that was my argument?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
doesnt being a god in DC mean your connected to the god wave? 😬

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Pretty much everything is connected to the Godwave in DC. Morrison's New Gods are the only Gods in DC that are all that impressive.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Pretty much everything is connected to the Godwave in DC. Morrison's New Gods are the only Gods in DC that are all that impressive.

The Olympian ones are pretty strong too.

I liked their more modern Rucka designs.

Originally posted by Q99
The Olympian ones are pretty strong too.

I liked their more modern Rucka designs.

Olympians suck in direct combat recently for some reason.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Olympians suck in direct combat recently for some reason.

The DC pantheon. Zeus is in particular is a pussy at times.

what comics have they been in recently?

also isnt ares(dc) supposed to be the ultimate oppenent in H2H? i read that he has master over every fighting style and weapon

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The DC pantheon. Zeus is in particular is a pussy at times.

It is noted that as time passed, his power waned a little while Athena, Ares, and Aphrodite got stronger to the point that Athena was able to take over.

Still, he fought and killed Kane Malohai (a Hawaiian god who controls the heavens) in a pretty badass manner. Without anti-god New God tech involved, he can throw down well when he needs to.