Originally posted by Black bolt zOrion can't beat Supes nowadays either and this true form stuff holds no water. When has Ds's true form slaughtered Supes. Orion killed him in countdown also and he doesn't easily best Orion hardly ever.
He can multiple new gods.And thats not even his true form.He can beat orion with ease who is almost as strong as supes.
No he jobs to supes.Just like surfer jobs to thanos.Just like apoc jobs to everyone.
Multiple writers state the opposite and think Supes is more powerful than Darkseid which means it isn't jobbing it's their opinion.
Originally posted by quanchi112Because it was orions destiny to kill DS.Just like it was Drax's to kill thanos.You can't accept one and not the other.
Orion can't beat Supes nowadays either and this true form stuff holds no water. When has Ds's true form slaughtered Supes. Orion killed him in countdown also and he doesn't easily best Orion hardly ever.Multiple writers state the opposite and think Supes is more powerful than Darkseid which means it isn't jobbing it's their opinion.
It doesn't matter what writers state.And as for who hes owned higher then supes
Originally posted by Gecko4lifHe just plain jobs to supes.
Orion.
Infinity man.
Validus.
Entire pantheons.
Originally posted by Black bolt zIt was Orion's destiny which was fulfilled already prior to it was never Drax's destiny it was just his sole purpose. Big difference.
Because it was orions destiny to kill DS.Just like it was Drax's to kill thanos.You can't accept one and not the other.It doesn't matter what writers state.And as for who hes owned higher then supes
He just plain jobs to supes.
So the writer who gives us the story who decides how these characters match up has no say. Wow. The writer who backs it up with Superman crushing him and that doesn't count either ? It seems nothing counts except your own opinion based off of nothing making you a terrible debater.
Originally posted by Gecko4lifPrecrisis I mean things have changed and his powers are tied into those characters that's why he beats them easily. Nowadays he's DD's whipping boy.
Orion.
Infinity man.
Validus.
Entire pantheons.