Originally posted by dmillsAnnihilus was also killed by Nova whereas Mar-vell was always well above anything Nova could ever bring to the table.
Good one. This is hard man. Annihilus slapped around Nova and Quasar the same way that Mar-Vell slapped around Nova and Norrin. I'm gonna go with Annihilus because of his massive energy absorption abilities.
Originally posted by quanchi112Yeah but you gotta remember that Dick had access to the entire Nova Force when he fought Annihilus. He didn't have that against Mar-Vell. That's a huge power difference. Remember he was oneshotting Annihilus's moon sized dread ships and even one shotted the larger flagships. Even with that he still needed assistance with a weakened Annihilus.
Annihilus was also killed by Nova whereas Mar-vell was always well above anything Nova could ever bring to the table.
Can't believe I'm lowballing my boy here.
Originally posted by dmillsI don't think with the entire force he's anywhere near mar-vell though. I still look to him oneshotting magus and thinking he'd annihilate annihilus.
Yeah but you gotta remember that Dick had access to the entire Nova Force when he fought Annihilus. He didn't have that against Mar-Vell. That's a huge power difference. Remember he was oneshotting Annihilus's moon sized dread ships and even one shotted the larger flagships. Even with that he still needed assistance with a weakened Annihilus.Can't believe I'm lowballing my boy here.
Originally posted by quanchi112Depends on what interpretation of the Nova Force we accept. On most accounts the ENTIRE nova force is one of the primal energy forces of the universe and anyone wielding all of it was an absolute beast (ala Garthan Saal and even Nova back in the day) I'd say trans at least. But DnA wrote it fairly conservatively. Something they seemed to do with most ultra powerful characters save Thanos.
I don't think with the entire force he's anywhere near mar-vell though. I still look to him oneshotting magus and thinking he'd annihilate annihilus.
At any rate I still like the bug in this fight because of his energy siphoning abilities. Hell even The Mad titan seemed to respect Annihilus more then he did Mar-Vell.
Originally posted by dmills
Depends on what interpretation of the Nova Force we accept. On most accounts the ENTIRE nova force is one of the primal energy forces of the universe and anyone wielding all of it was an absolute beast (ala Garthan Saal and even Nova back in the day) I'd say trans at least. But DnA wrote it fairly conservatively. Something they seemed to do with most ultra powerful characters save Thanos.At any rate I still like the bug in this fight because of his energy siphoning abilities. Hell even The Mad titan seemed to respect Annihilus more then he did Mar-Vell.
I will agree that Thanos did seem to respect him more, not sure if that means much, but I agree on that point.
Originally posted by dmillsThanos was at odd against Mar-vell because of Mistress death. Annihilus was in good terms with Annihilus but don't think for a moment Thanos wouldn't rip Annihilus' head off the moment he threatened Death or himself.
Depends on what interpretation of the Nova Force we accept. On most accounts the ENTIRE nova force is one of the primal energy forces of the universe and anyone wielding all of it was an absolute beast (ala Garthan Saal and even Nova back in the day) I'd say trans at least. But DnA wrote it fairly conservatively. Something they seemed to do with most ultra powerful characters save Thanos.At any rate I still like the bug in this fight because of his energy siphoning abilities. Hell even The Mad titan seemed to respect Annihilus more then he did Mar-Vell.
He turned on him immediately and he was in a completely different mindset in annihilation he was much calmer. In imperative he was pissed off and oh how they all paid.
Originally posted by quanchi112Thing is, Annihilus held all the cards at the time. Hell he played Thanos worse then Thanos played Mar-Vell. And Annihilus has NEVER been chumped the way that Mar-Vell got chumped by the purple Skrull. Not as long as he has the CCR. Agree about Thanos's mindset though.
Thanos was at odd against Mar-vell because of Mistress death. Annihilus was in good terms with Annihilus but don't think for a moment Thanos wouldn't rip Annihilus' head off the moment he threatened Death or himself.He turned on him immediately and he was in a completely different mindset in annihilation he was much calmer. In imperative he was pissed off and oh how they all paid.
Originally posted by dmillsThanos was simply bored and he himself admitted he could undo the damage done by Annihilus. Let's face it without Thanos he'd never have Galactus in the first place.
Thing is, Annihilus held all the cards at the time. Hell he played Thanos worse then Thanos played Mar-Vell. And Annihilus has NEVER been chumped the way that Mar-Vell got chumped by the purple Skrull. Not as long as he has the CCR. Agree about Thanos's mindset though.
Thanos would maul Annihilus one on one. I don't see Mar-vell ever losing to Nova I don't even think he can beat him, ever.
Originally posted by quanchi112No doubt. But he'd do better then Mar-Vell IMO.Thanos would maul Annihilus one on one. I don't see Mar-vell ever losing to Nova I don't even think he can beat him, ever.
Agreed. Although if he goes all Garthan Saal like he did at the beginning of Annihilation he could make it interesting. IMO naturally.