Chaos War Hercules vs. Rune King Thor

Started by Black bolt z6 pages

Can we wait until CW is finished for herc to have more feats until we debate with him?

Originally posted by bagsikdangal101
I'll go with RKT on this one because of this.

Chaos War Hercules is powerful but he lacks control on his new skyfather powers as he admits in Chaos War#2.

I don't see that as a hindrance as he didn't want to accidentally hurt anyone. Would be the case in this fight.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Can we wait until CW is finished for herc to have more feats until we debate with him?
No! We debate now child 🙂

Originally posted by iceman24567
No! We debate now child 🙂

I'd tell you to chill... But you are already the iceman so.. :-P

Originally posted by rotiart
I'd tell you to chill... But you are already the iceman so.. :-P
Nice never seen it worded like that before 😆

Originally posted by iceman24567
Well that is something but nothing significant i still feel Herc so far is more impressive
RKT is above Odin which is very impressive. Him easily beheading looking who absorb all off asgard is very impressive. RKT also omniscience was greater then Odin thus the reason RKT was able to defeat the ones above all where Odin could figuare it out how. HErcules power level should be as high as a skyfather at the very least his omniscience is ok buy nothing greater then any other skyather However RKT showed to be even more so on how his personality changed b/c of his level of omniscience was as Hercules well...even with his omniscience is proving to still be a bit stupid. Two examples him leading all the earth's heros to be trapped in a dream state then revealing the location of the god heads was even better.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
RKT is above Odin which is very impressive. Him easily beheading looking who absorb all off asgard is very impressive. RKT also omniscience was greater then Odin thus the reason RKT was able to defeat the ones above all where Odin could figuare it out how. HErcules power level should be as high as a skyfather at the very least his omniscience is ok buy nothing greater then any other skyather However RKT showed to be even more so on how his personality changed b/c of his level of omniscience was as Hercules well...even with his omniscience is proving to still be a bit stupid. Two examples him leading all the earth's heros to be trapped in a dream state then revealing the location of the god heads was even better.
Rkt being above Odin i understand but to say he was far above him? Nah not buying it without some feats to show for it. Herc has never received such an amp before nothing anywhere close to it so he's a little slow on how to use it properly but at this point i can say he's up there with the high end skyfathers

ill go with herc.

Hercs lack of control will more than likely give him the majority. He might try to blast Thor and KO him, and end up scattering his atoms across time and space.

Originally posted by Stall_19
I don't see that as a hindrance as he didn't want to accidentally hurt anyone. Would be the case in this fight.

I kind of view them equal in power(although I still doubt that).Lack of control means lack of skill in using something.Thor has been using powers(strength,weather manipulation,& etc) as contrary to Herc who only uses strength.So it comes down to who has more skills in using their powers.And I view RKT as the one who is better skilled between them.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Rkt being above Odin i understand but to say he was far above him? Nah not buying it without some feats to show for it. Herc has never received such an amp before nothing anywhere close to it so he's a little slow on how to use it properly but at this point i can say he's up there with the high end skyfathers
See ican't see high end skyfathers when the top MArvel skyfather was odin and RKT way beyond him plus the fact i haven't seen hercules do anythign impressice to put him up on top yet excpet summon big G and eternity however that something King Thor and Zeus could do too. Plus you have too add all of king Thor feats to RKT with other then no galaxy bustign feats he was on par or better then Odin during his reighn

Just to add:

The feat where Herc defeats a Zeus that "took down" Galactus was actually ALL orchestrated by Mikaboshi to trick Herc into revealing the location of the other Gods.

An omniscience feat, yes. But as a power tier feat? More of a nonfeat really.

It was an orchestration, but he actually did defeat Zeus. He was just trying to warn him without outright telling him since I'm assuming Makaboshi wouldn't allow it.

And it can be seen as a power tier feat, since the only other person capable of finding the Godheads was Thor(I'm assuming from his time as RKT and Ruler of Asgard). He literally tore apart reality on a whim and found them in moments, something Mikaboshi couldn't do, despite his massive power.

Zeus w/o an amp would NEVER be able to defeat Galactus, even Galactus was surprised. There was an OBVIOUS amp here on Zeus' powers. Mikaboshi needed Galactus down, so he made it so. Mikaboshi needed Herc to reveal the location of the other Godheads (thru trickery), so he made it so. Herc had zero control over the outcome of the battle. Thus, the whole thing is a nonfeat over power levels.

"Tearing reality on a whim" isn't really all that impressive for skyfather, IMO. And locating the other Godheads is an omniscience feat and not a power-level feat (tho it's funny that he had the omniscience to find the Godheads but not the omniscience to realize he was being tricked).

Herc still downed Zeus though

Originally posted by iceman24567
Herc still downed Zeus though
Who was a puppet at teh time and Galactus did zap him good before. It was all part of the plan to reveal the location.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Who was a puppet at teh time and Galactus did zap him good before. It was all part of the plan to reveal the location.
Whether it was part of the plan or not Herc show power output to kill a amped Zeus it's more impressive than anything RKT did

iceman is correct.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Whether it was part of the plan or not Herc show power output to kill a amped Zeus it's more impressive than anything RKT did
NOt at all the goal was to get HErcules to do what he did IF THe Chaos king wanted to kill HErcules he would have. After all chaos king Kill zeus again with second of the third battle then absorb all the hell realms. Chaos king wanted Herc to kill him

So did Herc have help killing Zues?