In terms of raw power, Nekron would take this anyway. We didn't get to see much of him go in Blackest Night, but in his initial appearance he was killing Guardians by the score from another dimension, and his entrance into the physical universe would have caused its total destruction. His mere presence! He empowered Krona, who at this point was mostly powerless, to the point that he was capable of killing Guardians and taking on the full, unrestrained power of 1/3rd of the GL Corps.
This isn't a real fight. Nekron is a cosmological fixture of the DCU. Putting him up against a malevolent universe destroyer is more appropriate.
Originally posted by Desaad
Well, I hardly think he was at his best there. Even a 'full power' AM in this form was destroying galaxies rather than universes, but I don't think this was full power.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Yeah I already agreed on Nekron winning this fight but I'm just curious about the control factor.Did anyone who already died defy the effects?
Superboy (Conner Kent) was able to resist slightly, but I mean crazy slightly. Like he was able to change almost nothing, and even that had to do with some outside factors, etc.
Everyone else was controlled until freed by something external, like another ring.
Originally posted by Desaad
Well, I hardly think he was at his best there. Even a 'full power' AM in this form was destroying galaxies rather than universes, but I don't think this was full power.
AM at his weakest was powering an entire corp so he still was quite powerful. This did more than that; it revived him back to a living which imo would put him above the level he was when he just a zombie battery for the Black Lantern.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Yeah I already agreed on Nekron winning this fight but I'm just curious about the control factor.Did anyone who already died defy the effects?
What everyone else said. But it took a hold of Spectre and turned him into a Black Lantern.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingDo I need to put a scan up of Am failed to kill Sodam Yat a daxamite twice ? I mean I doubt he'd even give Odin pause let alone someone like Thanos. Am wasn't really that powerful with what we saw out of him since coie.
You seem to think a lot of things. Here's my advice. Stop thinking. Who struck down Nekron again? You zero evidence of any being save those with white light powers. What that ring riped into Nekron and destroyed the BL to free AM, the AM an a clear shot and failed to even knock Nekron back. Thanos doesn't even powers comparable to AM to even begin to fight Nekron. There's nothing to figure out. Thanos isn't AM.So when he lost his amp and weakened as you say, how come a refreshed AM failed to harm him? Jeez? By your logic, Thanos could muster up enough power to destroy Nekron where AM couldn't? It's simple. AM had his clear shot and failed. The Rings once again cause the demise of Nekron. The same AM that burned the flesh of Oans just by his touch.
Thanos wasn't weak by that point and tossed around a guy that's an ant compared to AM. Mar-Vell gets his powers from the Many Angeled Ones. AM was the power source of two corps. Thanos, who was twice punked by Drax, is going to put down a being that AM failed too.
No you haven't dolt. Thanos needed a true abstract to handle the MAO. His plan was pretty much kill me please so my girlfriend can save my butt. Remember when Phyla-Vell represented the avatar of Death and what good that did her against Adam Magus? lmao Being an avatar isn't actually having the abstracts' level of power dolt. Thanos is going to use his life powers to harm Nekron lol.
So if Thor is more powerful that Ganthet, then why are planet shattering feats so impressive for Thor and Beta Ray? Ganthet can crack planets with his thought. More powerful? Maybe you should stop sniffing and read some actual comics. Thor had trouble with Amadeus Cho. Thor's even had trouble with the Hulk before.
Basically you read like the reviews of the books instead of reading the book itself huh? Remember that time when Thanos took that old guy and was getting slapped around? Yeah, now that was an easy defeat.
Lmao. He represents power. Thank you. He isn't the totality of that power or even close. This is the same guy that needed Mar-Vell to kill him to bring the true Abstract to handle the matter. Then cried like a Justin Bieber fan when Death walked away from him. He did nothing in that story but get stabbed by Mar-Vell.
Hahahaha. Oh Quanchi. You're still the ever sad kid that came onto this board with his fanboy charms and trollish looks. How I've missed laughing at you.
The kid that knows nothing is pretending like he knows right from wrong. Everybody here has powers that defy life. Thanos couldn't rewrite jack. All he did was blast this people with powers given to him by Mistress Death. Not enough powers to harm any one of significance. Did he kill Mar-Vell and destroy the MAO at his own hands? Death did that. He did nothing but get stab.
By easy, you mean AM? He lost his amp and AM attack. Where does he die at AM's hand? Those were white rings that tore him apart, not AM's power. Have your eyes check okay because once again it's white rings and life energy that defeated him. Thanos is getting raped again.
Thanos doesn't have to be Am. Nekron tanking a blast and bfring him right before he was destroyed isn't proof he can beat Am it's proof he can bfr Am.
One blast doesn't mean unable to harm him I mean look at Odin' first blast against a weakened Thanos. If he bfr'd Odin then by your logic Odin can never hurt him and is simply beyond him. That's your own logic turned right back around on you.
Thanos was never back to full power the entire run after the gotg 25. Figures. Thanos was unkillable she wasn't meaning as the avatar of death he was much more capable and powerful than she was. That's Thanos for you making even the avatar of death into some unkillable I am smarter than you killing machine against Nekron who failed at every level of the game he was trying to play.
Thor having trouble with someone in battle isn't proof he's less powerful. If you want to ignore him damaging Exitar, making a weakened Galactus flee for his life, etc. that's on you. He doesn't always use his best power everytime he fights someone or something. Use your head. Please. Now please back up your claim the Guardian Ganthet is more powerful or else concede. Gurdians were also killed easily by Larfleeze. I mean by feats Thor walks the dog on ganthet. He's a lot more powerful.
I read the story. Now again when he lost power over his corps his amp went up and he was easily defeated.
Thanos needed to fool him into bringing Death to annihilate another entire universe I never stated Thanos can just annihilate entire universes. Rituals and what not were needed to overtake death in the first place so he needed one to reimplement her.
You can act like you're laughing but my points stand tall.
Overwriting the life powers to kill single beings were within his power he just needed a ritual to reinstitute death which he did. Thanos also dominated mar-vell who oneshotted the Magus while weakened. Thanos would maul Nekron.
He bfr'd him and was easily beaten he didn't crush Am he bfr'd him and died in the very next page. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
Do I need to put a scan up of Am failed to kill Sodam Yat a daxamite twice ? I mean I doubt he'd even give Odin pause let alone someone like Thanos. Am wasn't really that powerful with what we saw out of him since coie.
Got ahead and do so. I'll give you scans of Thanos failing to kill Surfer, Hulk, Thor, Rocket Raccon, Groot, and Squirrel Girl. I'll even show you scans of Odin failing to kill Ulik, Surfer, Drax, Annihilus, etc. AM burned immortals and powered entire corps. Thanos needed to make a bargain with Tenebrous and Aegis to take out Galactus.
Thanos doesn't have to be Am. Nekron tanking a blast and bfring him right before he was destroyed isn't proof he can beat Am it's proof he can bfr Am.
So Thanos has enough power to bfr AM or Galactus or say Omega Right? Oh that's right, he needed his entire amandas of ship to deal with Omega. Thanos isn't AM, not that AM managed to harm Nekron at all.
One blast doesn't mean unable to harm him I mean look at Odin' first blast against a weakened Thanos. If he bfr'd Odin then by your logic Odin can never hurt him and is simply beyond him. That's your own logic turned right back around on you.
BFR Odin? Show me Thanos has the power to even move Odin then we can entertain the thought of him BRF the all father. By your logic, Nekron can be beaten physically when he lost his amp. Well after he lost his amp, he took on AM's power and was not even knocked back. And only harmed once again by the white rings. By your logic, flying rings are more physically powerful than AM's body engulfing blast.
Thanos was never back to full power the entire run after the gotg 25. Figures. Thanos was unkillable she wasn't meaning as the avatar of death he was much more capable and powerful than she was. That's Thanos for you making even the avatar of death into some unkillable I am smarter than you killing machine against Nekron who failed at every level of the game he was trying to play.
Lol. Thanos didn't make jack. Death made him immortal so as to complete his mission. She didn't want the Drax incident to occur. Guess what, it occurred Thanos was saved because of Death's ban to keep him alive for the Necropsy. Lol, did you read TI? Him being Thanos didn't have anything to do with boosting that status as avatar.
Thor having trouble with someone in battle isn't proof he's less powerful. If you want to ignore him damaging Exitar, making a weakened Galactus flee for his life, etc. that's on you. He doesn't always use his best power everytime he fights someone or something. Use your head. Please. Now please back up your claim the Guardian Ganthet is more powerful or else concede. Gurdians were also killed easily by Larfleeze. I mean by feats Thor walks the dog on ganthet. He's a lot more powerful.
Hello noob. You don't read comics that much do you? Hercules hasn't done have those things and he has given Thor a fight. Kyle has contained the big bang and even he would get a beat down by a Guardian. Anyways, your being a dumbass again Quanchi. There's no debate here. And having trouble with Thanos isn't proof he's less powerful either right? By this, we agree Thor is above Thanos too. Thor chased Galactus off and cracked a Celestial's armor. Thanos shielded himself and pleaded for mercy from Galactus. Thanos was KOed by the Maker, an unstable version of Kosmos. Kosmos and Kubik were afraid to get near a Celestial because it could destroy them. Featwise Thor would turn Thanos into an Asgardian's toilet.
I read the story. Now again when he lost power over his corps his amp went up and he was easily defeated.[/b]
Yeah, by those rings. Vision problems huh Quanchi? Why do you make yourself look stupid with such comments?
Thanos needed to fool him into bringing Death to annihilate another entire universe I never stated Thanos can just annihilate entire universes. Rituals and what not were needed to overtake death in the first place so he needed one to reimplement her.
Yup. So how does he have power on the same level as AM again? Or the power on the level of any abstracts? What high end being did he take don't? Shuma Gorath? lol Didn't he just get stabbed?
You can act like you're laughing but my points stand tall.Overwriting the life powers to kill single beings were within his power he just needed a ritual to reinstitute death which he did. Thanos also dominated mar-vell who oneshotted the Magus while weakened. Thanos would maul Nekron.
lol. Life powers? Did you bother to actually read any of these books? It states the cancerverse as a universe where life won. There's no such things as life powers noob. Life thrived because death was removed from that universe. Thanos as the avatar, agent of death, had the power to kill them permanently. Those beings themselves don't have life powers as you erroneously believe. Thanos is going to maul death with his powers to kill? lolololol Just stop already okay? You're just embarrassing yourself. By the way, if you're referring to Drax, he came from the 616, not the cancerverse. Anyone with sufficient power can kill Drax so that's nothing. Overwriting life powers? LOL
He bfr'd him and was easily beaten he didn't crush Am he bfr'd him and died in the very next page. 🙂
Yeah, by those white rings remember? Who killed him again? Oh that's right, those rings puncturing him were more effective than the AM. Thanos is getting raped so badly that you're going to cry in your dreams.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingWrong. The difference is the Am made his intentions clear. Thanos killed Drax when he wanted to. So once again when Thanos wants someone dead they get killed.
Got ahead and do so. I'll give you scans of Thanos failing to kill Surfer, Hulk, Thor, Rocket Raccon, Groot, and Squirrel Girl. I'll even show you scans of Odin failing to kill Ulik, Surfer, Drax, Annihilus, etc. AM burned immortals and powered entire corps. Thanos needed to make a bargain with Tenebrous and Aegis to take out Galactus.So Thanos has enough power to bfr AM or Galactus or say Omega Right? Oh that's right, he needed his entire amandas of ship to deal with Omega. Thanos isn't AM, not that AM managed to harm Nekron at all.
BFR Odin? Show me Thanos has the power to even move Odin then we can entertain the thought of him BRF the all father. By your logic, Nekron can be beaten physically when he lost his amp. Well after he lost his amp, he took on AM's power and was not even knocked back. And only harmed once again by the white rings. By your logic, flying rings are more physically powerful than AM's body engulfing blast.
Lol. Thanos didn't make jack. Death made him immortal so as to complete his mission. She didn't want the Drax incident to occur. Guess what, it occurred Thanos was saved because of Death's ban to keep him alive for the Necropsy. Lol, did you read TI? Him being Thanos didn't have anything to do with boosting that status as avatar.
Hello noob. You don't read comics that much do you? Hercules hasn't done have those things and he has given Thor a fight. Kyle has contained the big bang and even he would get a beat down by a Guardian. Anyways, your being a dumbass again Quanchi. There's no debate here. And having trouble with Thanos isn't proof he's less powerful either right? By this, we agree Thor is above Thanos too. Thor chased Galactus off and cracked a Celestial's armor. Thanos shielded himself and pleaded for mercy from Galactus. Thanos was KOed by the Maker, an unstable version of Kosmos. Kosmos and Kubik were afraid to get near a Celestial because it could destroy them. Featwise Thor would turn Thanos into an Asgardian's toilet.
Yeah, by those rings. Vision problems huh Quanchi? Why do you make yourself look stupid with such comments?
Yup. So how does he have power on the same level as AM again? Or the power on the level of any abstracts? What high end being did he take don't? Shuma Gorath? lol Didn't he just get stabbed?
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lol. Life powers? Did you bother to actually read any of these books? It states the cancerverse as a universe where life won. There's no such things as life powers noob. Life thrived because death was removed from that universe. Thanos as the avatar, agent of death, had the power to kill them permanently. Those beings themselves don't have life powers as you erroneously believe. Thanos is going to maul death with his powers to kill? lolololol Just stop already okay? You're just embarrassing yourself. By the way, if you're referring to Drax, he came from the 616, not the cancerverse. Anyone with sufficient power can kill Drax so that's nothing. Overwriting life powers? LOL
Yeah, by those white rings remember? Who killed him again? Oh that's right, those rings puncturing him were more effective than the AM. Thanos is getting raped so badly that you're going to cry in your dreams. [/B]
Anti Monitor isn't anywhere near Galactus or Omega level either and when Thanos blasted Galactus he went flying unlike Am's blasts against Nekron. The funny thing is Nekron died on the very next page.
Am's blast obviously damaged him and the rings finished him off I mean by your own logic Odin failed to hurt Thanos if the fight stopped after the first blast. Thanos was never defeated by the best skyfather in comics after getting repeated chances to kill him he failed to even ko the mad titan. Thanos is upgraded and unkillable unlike Nekron.
Thanos is death's champion and his reputation and what not makes it evident no representative of death save Thanos was the man for the job. His power level was insane whereas Nekron's was pedestrian at best unamped.
Yes, herc can give Thor a fight that doesn't mean herc is as powerful as Thor ? I mean do you have a clue about how logic factors into anything. Thor is more powerful than Herc by a country mile but that won't change the fact Thor doesn't godblast Herc. By your logic they are power equals which is ludicrous like most of your reasoning tends to go.
Thor did that to a weakened Galactus and also had Ego there as well. Thanos took on a well nourished Galactus by himself. Thor has since failed against a weakened Galactus so Thanos is obviously much more powerful than Thor who blows guardians off the charts. Context. Just because someone does something against Galactus doesn't mean he was at the same level as say when he took on Thanos nor does it mean the situation was the same. Think.
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Yes, and you agreed Lt can kill Nekron's body so it depends on if you have the power or not and since Thanos can kill unkillable beings this is his game.
Yes, they do have life powers I mean the universe itself has defeated death and we saw what life powers do when a being is supposed to die. Everyone was infected with them they beat death not the case when Thanos showed up.
Thanos won i his story and he destroyed an entire universe by his actions whereas Nekron died while his entire corps lived. That's pitiful.
Thanos, 10/10. 🙂