How long before GATTACA is real?

With the discovery that a babies genome is present in foetal blood, we can think how wonderful at 12 weeks parents can safely determine if their child is going to have Downs Syndrome and other diseases which previously could only be determined later and at risk to the mother. What wonderful benign tech you think, isn't Science going to improve our world. I thought the same about the computer, instead it's led to an extra layer of bureacracy and instead of streamlining work gathers copious irrelevent information which along with tech like anpr camera's has turned the U.K. into a veritable open prison. Forgive me for seeing possible dangers in this 'brave new world'.

you are correct

the computer has had no great beneficial impact on our society

[sic]

Originally posted by Free_Speech
With the discovery that a babies genome is present in foretal blood, we can think how wonderful at 12 weeks parents can safely determine if their child is going to have Downs Syndrome and other diseases which previously could only be determined later and at risk to the mother. What wonderful benign tech you think, isn't Science going to improve our world. I thought the same about the computer, instead it's led to an extra layer of bureacracy and instead of streamlining work gathers copious irrelevent information which along with tech like anpr camera's has turned the U.K. into a veritable open prison. Forgive me for seeing possible dangers in this 'brave new world'.

Originally posted by inimalist
you are correct

the computer has had no great beneficial impact on our society

[sic]

Oh it has, it just didn't liberate the workforce from drudgery, you'd have to be old enough to realise why I said that though son. :-) Haha, I spelt foetal wrong.

Fun fact: Aldous Huxley actually rejected brave new world as a predictor of the future in his later years, in favor of an actual utopia of "The Island".

Originally posted by Free_Speech
With the discovery that a babies genome is present in foetal blood, we can think how wonderful at 12 weeks parents can safely determine if their child is going to have Downs Syndrome and other diseases which previously could only be determined later and at risk to the mother. What wonderful benign tech you think, isn't Science going to improve our world. I thought the same about the computer, instead it's led to an extra layer of bureacracy and instead of streamlining work gathers copious irrelevent information which along with tech like anpr camera's has turned the U.K. into a veritable open prison. Forgive me for seeing possible dangers in this 'brave new world'.

It would be a PC/ethical minefield. I don't think most parents want a dumbshit for a kid who can't contribute to society, so I guess there will be no more "special needs" people if GATTACA technology becomes real.

I wonder if it will be like those video games that let you create a character; a pregnant woman would be able to basically customize her child (eye color, height and so on).

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
It would be a PC/ethical minefield. I don't think most parents want a dumbshit for a kid who can't contribute to society, so I guess there will be no more "special needs" people if GATTACA technology becomes real.

I wonder if it will be like those video games that let you create a character; a pregnant woman would be able to basically customize her child (eye color, height and so on).

We are almost there...already.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Fun fact: Aldous Huxley actually rejected brave new world as a predictor of the future in his later years, in favor of an actual utopia of "The Island".

Yes, I actually knew that. I kind of feel we have a sort of incompetant Orwellian 'Big Brother' now in the U.K. Nanny state etc.. except it's so incompetant. Hilarious really.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
It would be a PC/ethical minefield. I don't think most parents want a dumbshit for a kid who can't contribute to society, so I guess there will be no more "special needs" people if GATTACA technology becomes real.

I bet there would be. But, the only people who will keep those children are pro-life churchers. It works out well in a way. Before long, all the churchers kids will be drool machines who need helmets and leashes. Their kids don't breed. Chruchers die out. Humanity is saved.

If the baby is born with any promblems it should not be consider a curse but a blessing.Babies with promblems need extra attention and love.I hate how people just abort there baby just because there is something wrong with it.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
If the baby is born with any promblems it should not be consider a curse but a blessing.Babies with promblems need extra attention and love.I hate how people just abort there baby just because there is something wrong with it.

have you ever worked with the severely mentally handicapped?

Originally posted by inimalist
have you ever worked with the severely mentally handicapped?

Actualy yes, my socialist/anarchist mentality is incredibly altruistic. I do put my money where my heart is.

Originally posted by Free_Speech
Actualy yes, my socialist/anarchist mentality is incredibly altruistic. I do put my money where my heart is.

very nice

its pretty rewarding, is it not?

I assume that, while maybe warning against abuses, you aren't totally against genetic pre-screening for health issues in vitro?

my point to darkside was more that, sure, we can give these people a good life, but even the best we can provide for them is barely functional. I think her opinions of abortion and science in general are sort of blinding her to the actual good that can come from eliminating things like Huntington's disease or cystic fibrosis

Originally posted by inimalist
very nice

its pretty rewarding, is it not?

I assume that, while maybe warning against abuses, you aren't totally against genetic pre-screening for health issues in vitro?

my point to darkside was more that, sure, we can give these people a good life, but even the best we can provide for them is barely functional. I think her opinions of abortion and science in general are sort of blinding her to the actual good that can come from eliminating things like Huntington's disease or cystic fibrosis

I found it rewarding, as I found my time in Histopath..so long ago.
Yes the positives are great, give it time though and the rich will subvert it. The more we uderstand the actual function of genes, the more insurance companies (already started) will control us. I believe in the anonymity of your, mine and everybody's biomatter except in relation to curing disease. On and Jackie Malfoy is not what you think....

Originally posted by Free_Speech
I found it rewarding, as I found my time in Histopath..so long ago.
Yes the positives are great, give it time though and the rich will subvert it. The more we uderstand the actual function of genes, the more insurance companies (already started) will control us. I believe in the anonymity of your, mine and everybody's biomatter except in relation to curing disease. On and Jackie Malfoy is not what you think....

well, like you said about computers not freeing labour, the same is true with the doom prophecies

sure, we might have a "big brother" state, but it is only tangentally related to what Orwell or others had warned us of.

I'm with you, there are obvious abuses that insurance companies are going to pull, but I tend to think the danger is overblown

Originally posted by inimalist
well, like you said about computers not freeing labour, the same is true with the doom prophecies

sure, we might have a "big brother" state, but it is only tangentally related to what Orwell or others had warned us of.

I'm with you, there are obvious abuses that insurance companies are going to pull, but I tend to think the danger is overblown

We'll see.....

I don't know, I think it might actually end up resulting in a whole new field of medicine; the treating and healing of the fetus before it is ever born would be a huge financial incentive for the health industry.

However, the truly false assumption in this thread is that abortion is at all an easily-reached conclusion for people.

Originally posted by skekUng
I don't know, I think it might actually end up resulting in a whole new field of medicine; the treating and healing of the fetus before it is ever born would be a huge financial incentive for the health industry.

However, the truly false assumption in this thread is that abortion is at all an easily-reached conclusion for people.

You could do this before dedifferention when you just have stem cells. After that.. unlikely imo.

Whats a Gattaca?

Originally posted by Free_Speech
You could do this before dedifferention when you just have stem cells. After that.. unlikely imo.

We'll see. The title of the thread references Gattaca, a little sci-fi is acceptable I think.