DP Tyrant vs Thanos Rematch

Started by Stoic7 pages

I'll take your response as an indication that you are in denial. Tyrant did beat him, or he would not have fled. Tyrant would wipe the floor with Lord Vell, and Thanos together, and if you like you can throw in all of the guys that Vell punked, and it still wouldn't make a difference. Tyrant is above Thanos period. Guess what? This one is going to tickle you. When and if you see Thanos again, and you know you will, keep in mind that when this happens he will no longer be immortal. I let you deciefer that one on your own. Just know one thing, Tyrant was written to be Thanos' superior, as is Odin. So until Thanos can take a beating that threatens to decimate a galaxy, he is just not on the level.

Originally posted by Stoic
I'll take your response as an indication that you are in denial. Tyrant did beat him, or he would not have fled. Tyrant would wipe the floor with Lord Vell, and Thanos together, and if you like you can throw in all of the guys that Vell punked, and it still wouldn't make a difference. Tyrant is above Thanos period. Guess what? This one is going to tickle you. When and if you see Thanos again, and you know you will, keep in mind that when this happens he will no longer be immortal. I let you deciefer that one on your own. Just know one thing, Tyrant was written to be Thanos' superior, as is Odin. So until Thanos can take a beating that threatens to decimate a galaxy, he is just not on the level.
Thanos in his mind won their struggle but that's irrelevant to current Thanos anyways.

No, he wouldn't. Mar-vell was above a team that was probably better than the team Tyrant beat or around the same. Not saying he can beat Tyrant but acting as if he can wipe the floor with him is based off nothing.

Thanos wins, unkillable, more powerful, more durable, more pissed off.

Tyrant wins

Originally posted by Stoic
The only time that Thanos appeared to be stronger than his old self was when he was first resurected. When Gamora's dagger broke on his skin is the only instance showing that he was physically superior to his old self, but this level of power did not continue for long. Notice how in the last issue that Mar-Vell was cutting him up like a turkey.
Thanos was always Deaths Avatar, is this supposed to mean something? Quasar is the Champion of the Universe, does this somehow mean that he's ready to go round for round with Tyrant? If this is the case I name Spiderman the Great Champion of LT, because surely this title will allow him to waste Tyrant. I would have nothing to say about your twisting the Orb of power that Thanos used to amp himself but there is proof.

My proof is solid, Thanos was knocked for a loop and the Orb was knocked out of his hand, he scrambled to get it because in fact he needed it to help himself in the struggle with Tyrant. If not and he simply wanted to steal it, he would have opened a portal to his ship, and tossed the useless bauble through it. Did Thanos do this? No, he scrambled to repossess it.

I also read someone state that they believed that Thanos could single handedly defeat Beta Ray Bill, Gladiator, Terrax, Morg, Ganymede and, Jack of Hearts as easily as Tyrant did.... This is a lie. Morg alone nearly worked Thanos. Tyrant would WTF PWN Morg.

Current Thanos would get his shyt pushed in by DP Tyrant.

Stoic I tried to be fair and you still don't understand that concept yourself. So I'm going to have to once again point out your clear double standard and bias. That along with a basic lack of comprehension of words...

Do you know what the word proof means stoic? Do you know what the word speculation means?

Okay I asked for PROOF that Thanos was amped... and you gave me speculation. Thanos trying to get an orb and scrabbling to do so ISN'T PROOF Stoic. You claiming that is proof is so amusing I don't know where to begin. Proof would be narration saying the orb was amping Thanos strength or blast. There was ZERO narration like that. Don't you understand that him scrabbling to get the orb could be very EASILY and SIMPLY be explained by that being his brize. He didn't want to lose his prize to study. Prize becvause it was something to gain knowledge from and because it was taken from Tyrant. He scrabbilng to get it is easily explain by that being his prize.

Him not teleporting away is again explained by the above and there is SOLID ACTUAL proof of why. It was stated in narration he wanted to challenge himself and look for a good fight. That is WHY he was there to FACE Tyrant in combat. So, your "proof" which is a joke is contradicted by ACTUAL proof. He wouldn't just teleport away with the orb because his whole point in being there was to challenge Tyrant in combat.

You really need to learn what the word proof means, and not try and pass your speculation and conjecture off as proof.

Now onto Thanos.. I didn't say he was amped for sure but AT THE VERY LEAST we can consider it a B&T amp like Thor. Even though it was later shown NOT to be WM mode which is a verified amp. Thor was shown to do things he hasn't ever done. This was because through narration he was stated to be bloodlusted and not holding back. Being in that kinda of state clearly made him more powerful and thus could be conidered an amp. Thanos was CLEARLY in this state of mind.. there is ACTUAL proof of this. Look at his demeanor in comparison to other battles. He was clearly not joking around or messing around and this could explain why he was able to accomplish ALL he did while weakened. I could accept that but there was clearly some kinda of amp. He has NEVER EVER been able to kill drax in one shot. They have met numerous times and this has never been the case. Yet now, he one shot him with ease. This speaks towards SOMETHING. Either a Thanos not messing around or an amp from Death. Pick which one Stoic but you can't claim neither as the evidence is clearly against you.

Lastly, he hasn't always been the avatar of death.. where on God's green earth are you getting this from. Please post the scans or issue numbers of him always being Death's avater. That is just a load of poop and not true. He became Death Avatar in the T.I. he wasn't always that. One would think that came with special powers... Why was he able to kill things that NOBODY else could kill? That is clearly a power from being the avatar of death. If you disagree that works even better for me cause then Thanos is JUST THAT POWERFUL that he could do that without any upgrades from Death. See how that works?

You honestly need to understand what the word proof means and what the word speclation means. Going by your post, you clearly have no clue and have them backwards. I tried to be fair and point out, how it could be very EASILY and WITH PROOF argued that the orb contained nothing... you can't disprove ANY of these points can you

1. Thanos looked for Morg's orb to steal.. computer showed him where it was... Problem is BEFORE he gets the orb.. morg's power is restored by Tyrant. Thus there should be NO power in that orb or it was the wrong orb

2. When Thanos studied the orb there was NO mention of any P.C. or Morg's power or ANYTHING of the like. It was specifically said to contain knowledge.

You can't disprove any of the above. Yet, it seems (where I was trying to be fair) that the artist was having thanos blasts.. and blasts only upgraded by the Orb. The artwork seems to imply this. Yet that ISN'T proof but it could be viewed as such. However, if you're going to take little pieces here and there and call them proof with ZERO naration backing you up (Thanos with the orb) then you should also do the same with bits of into seeming to show Thanos amped and amply that the same. If not, it's a clear double standard or at the very least you dont' understand what the word proof means.

Of thanos blast was amped why wouldn't his physical stats not be amped with the orb... it doesn't make sense to me.

Well there is no proof either way. However, the evidence and narration point to there being no amp. The colorful pictures point to an amp. That being said... I think if there was an amp it was via his blasting only. You see when he locked up with Tyrant in a physical wrestling match the orb is still in his hand. However, it is in his hand and totally lifeless i.e. devoid of any color at all and doesn't appear active at all. Yet, when he is blasting it seems to be radiating color quite clearly. So if there was an amp it was to his blasts only.

Originally posted by carver9
Of thanos blast was amped why wouldn't his physical stats not be amped with the orb... it doesn't make sense to me.

Two questions carver

1. Do you think Thanos was amped when he fought Tyrant?

2. Do you think Thanos was amped being the avatar of Death or was it a quasi amp of sorts like B&T Thor?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Stoic I tried to be fair and you still don't understand that concept yourself. So I'm going to have to once again point out your clear double standard and bias. That along with a basic lack of comprehension of words...

Do you know what the word proof means stoic? Do you know what the word speculation means?

Okay I asked for PROOF that Thanos was amped... and you gave me speculation. Thanos trying to get an orb and scrabbling to do so ISN'T PROOF Stoic. You claiming that is proof is so amusing I don't know where to begin. Proof would be narration saying the orb was amping Thanos strength or blast. There was ZERO narration like that. Don't you understand that him scrabbling to get the orb could be very EASILY and SIMPLY be explained by that being his brize. He didn't want to lose his prize to study. Prize becvause it was something to gain knowledge from and because it was taken from Tyrant. He scrabbilng to get it is easily explain by that being his prize.

Him not teleporting away is again explained by the above and there is SOLID ACTUAL proof of why. It was stated in narration he wanted to challenge himself and look for a good fight. That is WHY he was there to FACE Tyrant in combat. So, your "proof" which is a joke is contradicted by ACTUAL proof. He wouldn't just teleport away with the orb because his whole point in being there was to challenge Tyrant in combat.

You really need to learn what the word proof means, and not try and pass your speculation and conjecture off as proof.

Now onto Thanos.. I didn't say he was amped for sure but AT THE VERY LEAST we can consider it a B&T amp like Thor. Even though it was later shown NOT to be WM mode which is a verified amp. Thor was shown to do things he hasn't ever done. This was because through narration he was stated to be bloodlusted and not holding back. Being in that kinda of state clearly made him more powerful and thus could be conidered an amp. Thanos was CLEARLY in this state of mind.. there is ACTUAL proof of this. Look at his demeanor in comparison to other battles. He was clearly not joking around or messing around and this could explain why he was able to accomplish ALL he did while weakened. I could accept that but there was clearly some kinda of amp. He has NEVER EVER been able to kill drax in one shot. They have met numerous times and this has never been the case. Yet now, he one shot him with ease. This speaks towards SOMETHING. Either a Thanos not messing around or an amp from Death. Pick which one Stoic but you can't claim neither as the evidence is clearly against you.

Lastly, he hasn't always been the avatar of death.. where on God's green earth are you getting this from. Please post the scans or issue numbers of him always being Death's avater. That is just a load of poop and not true. He became Death Avatar in the T.I. he wasn't always that. One would think that came with special powers... Why was he able to kill things that NOBODY else could kill? That is clearly a power from being the avatar of death. If you disagree that works even better for me cause then Thanos is JUST THAT POWERFUL that he could do that without any upgrades from Death. See how that works?

You honestly need to understand what the word proof means and what the word speclation means. Going by your post, you clearly have no clue and have them backwards. I tried to be fair and point out, how it could be very EASILY and WITH PROOF argued that the orb contained nothing... you can't disprove ANY of these points can you

1. Thanos looked for Morg's orb to steal.. computer showed him where it was... Problem is BEFORE he gets the orb.. morg's power is restored by Tyrant. Thus there should be NO power in that orb or it was the wrong orb

2. When Thanos studied the orb there was NO mention of any P.C. or Morg's power or ANYTHING of the like. It was specifically said to contain knowledge.

You can't disprove any of the above. Yet, it seems (where I was trying to be fair) that the artist was having thanos blasts.. and blasts only upgraded by the Orb. The artwork seems to imply this. Yet that ISN'T proof but it could be viewed as such. However, if you're going to take little pieces here and there and call them proof with ZERO naration backing you up (Thanos with the orb) then you should also do the same with bits of into seeming to show Thanos amped and amply that the same. If not, it's a clear double standard or at the very least you dont' understand what the word proof means.

I know my screen name lol... The proof is that Tyrant could mop the floor with Morg, and yet Thanos was barely keeping up with Morg. You see things your way, and i will see it my way, there are others who share my belief that Thanos was amped, we will never agree so let's keep it at that. I know that Thanos was amped and you are not sure if he was.

Originally posted by carver9
Of thanos blast was amped why wouldn't his physical stats not be amped with the orb... it doesn't make sense to me.

Carver he was amped, just keep on believing and you will remain correct.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos in his mind won their struggle but that's irrelevant to current Thanos anyways.

No, he wouldn't. Mar-vell was above a team that was probably better than the team Tyrant beat or around the same. Not saying he can beat Tyrant but acting as if he can wipe the floor with him is based off nothing.

Thanos wins, unkillable, more powerful, more durable, more pissed off.

More speculation, Lord Mar-Vell had a handful of appearances and suddenly he's the king of the world. Have you ever seen Superman get his clock punched by an unknown, only to return and beat the bricks off the guy that whipped him out? No? Well I have.

Galactus said that a battle between himself and Tyrant would have laid waste to an entire galaxy, and he was talking to a depleted Tyrant not a fully powered one.... hmmmm.... so i guess Thanos could go toe to toe with Galactus now huh? Please stop this charade, Tyrant would bust his bubble quicker than you can type wait. You still have not given or shown any proof where it stated that Thanos was upgraded other than him being immortal. The Highlanders are immortals but that does not mean that they would beat Tyrant. All it means is that Thanos would be an inexhautible power supply to Tyrant after he was hooked up to his citadel, which in turn would make Tyrant extremely pleased.

Tyrant 10/10.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Well there is no proof either way. However, the evidence and narration point to there being no amp. The colorful pictures point to an amp. That being said... I think if there was an amp it was via his blasting only. You see when he locked up with Tyrant in a physical wrestling match the orb is still in his hand. However, it is in his hand and totally lifeless i.e. devoid of any color at all and doesn't appear active at all. Yet, when he is blasting it seems to be radiating color quite clearly. So if there was an amp it was to his blasts only.

When Thanos punched Tyrant the Orb was lit. He was amped.

Originally posted by carver9
Of thanos blast was amped why wouldn't his physical stats not be amped with the orb... it doesn't make sense to me.
No proof Thanos looked at that orb as a trophy I don't see it as an amp.

Originally posted by Stoic
I know my screen name lol... The proof is that Tyrant could mop the floor with Morg, and yet Thanos was barely keeping up with Morg. You see things your way, and i will see it my way, there are others who share my belief that Thanos was amped, we will never agree so let's keep it at that. I know that Thanos was amped and you are not sure if he was.

Carver he was amped, just keep on believing and you will remain correct.

More speculation, Lord Mar-Vell had a handful of appearances and suddenly he's the king of the world. Have you ever seen Superman get his clock punched by an unknown, only to return and beat the bricks off the guy that whipped him out? No? Well I have.

Galactus said that a battle between himself and Tyrant would have laid waste to an entire galaxy, and he was talking to a depleted Tyrant not a fully powered one.... hmmmm.... so i guess Thanos could go toe to toe with Galactus now huh? Please stop this charade, Tyrant would bust his bubble quicker than you can type wait. You still have not given or shown any proof where it stated that Thanos was upgraded other than him being immortal. The Highlanders are immortals but that does not mean that they would beat Tyrant. All it means is that Thanos would be an inexhautible power supply to Tyrant after he was hooked up to his citadel, which in turn would make Tyrant extremely pleased.

Tyrant 10/10.

Mar-vell was simply above anyone Superman related. Thanos is also so having Thanos beat him down is proof of how amazing, powerful, and handsome Thanos is.
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Andy stated and I quote, Drax is essentially the right tool for the job. Heck, Superman couldn't kill Thanos--Galactus can't kill Thanos, can barely hurt him. But Drax CAN KILL him. That's what he was designed to do.

Barely hurt him based on his opinion and Thanos' unkillable nature he most certainly beats Galactus today.

Thanos would definitely beat Tyrant since he already showed he can knock him around before far less powerful and certainly killable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How can he take over Thanos' shields ? Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Thanos fought him before and was knocking him to the ground and him being amped and unkillable. Yeah, that's it for Tyrant.

Any reason he can't?He took control of galactus tech

Thanos is not amped and is not unkillable.

This fight comes down to one thing and one thing only :
Was Thanos amped by the Orb during their first and only encounter?

Stoic and I, among others say : yes. Quan and Kuroupt , among others say : no.

If he was amped, he still retreated as soon as Tyrant was about to get serious. Thanos himself admitted it.

If he wasn't amped, he still retreated as soon as Tyrant was about to get serious. Thanos himself admitted it.

The only difference between the two scenarios is how well Thanos did before Tyrant got serious. But the ultimate outcome would be the same regardless whether he was amped or not and Thanos knew it. That's why he fled.

DP Tyrant > Thanos (amped or not).

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Any reason he can't?He took control of galactus tech

Thanos is not amped and is not unkillable.

Because he took over tech that tried assimilating him he didn't simply eyeball his tech and take over it. It would help if you read any of the characters you debate for or against.

Thanos is unkillable and is not amped. He wasn't when he fought Tyrant the last time either.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mar-vell was simply above anyone Superman related. Thanos is also so having Thanos beat him down is proof of how amazing, powerful, and handsome Thanos is.
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=3973564&postcount=1908

Andy stated and I quote, Drax is essentially the right tool for the job. Heck, Superman couldn't kill Thanos--Galactus can't kill Thanos, can barely hurt him. But Drax CAN KILL him. That's what he was designed to do.

Barely hurt him based on his opinion and Thanos' unkillable nature he most certainly beats Galactus today.

Thanos would definitely beat Tyrant since he already showed he can knock him around before far less powerful and certainly killable.

So Thanos can beat Galactus now huh. Quanchi April 1st is way passed. Stop joking around.

Originally posted by Stoic
So Thanos can beat Galactus now huh. Quanchi April 1st is way passed. Stop joking around.
He most certainly can. If it were april fools maybe I'd give Galactus the nod, but nah I wouldn't mess with anyone that badly. That's about as mean as pretending the forum is shutting down and watching the lemmings panic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He most certainly can. If it were april fools maybe I'd give Galactus the nod, but nah I wouldn't mess with anyone that badly. That's about as mean as pretending the forum is shutting down and watching the lemmings panic.

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Galactus would turn Thanos into a new addition of his ship. He'd stick him right beside Khoon, so that he could serve as a new network firewall.

Galactus puts Thanos down like a rabid dog so would Tyrant

Originally posted by Stoic
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Galactus would turn Thanos into a new addition of his ship. He'd stick him right beside Khoon, so that he could serve as a new network firewall.

Not at all. Thanos used one shield and not his best and Galactus went from well nourished to needing to feed. Add on that Thanos is more powerful and can come back and this isn't even fair for Tyrant let alone Galactus.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No proof Thanos looked at that orb as a trophy I don't see it as an amp.

Of course you wouldnt...you are blind to anything that doesnt end in "Thanos wins."