Originally posted by iceman24567
Again carver you have yet to prove anything using hyperbole and what ifs dont cut it. You were saying Gladz eye beams are near the level of skyfathers the beams not being able to go fully threw Hulk and not covering his whole body proves you wrong. Never said Hulks durabilty is shit I said he doesnt hold a candle to his healing factor. I laugh at you telling me not to low ball ha hypocrite
It wasn't a what if, its a continuity... a story that was generally made to give basics on an cannon event. Some people consider it non-cannon but it can't be non-cannon since the story basically interacted with other real events that happened in the 616 verse.
Getting rid of that story is like getting rid of an entire event... some people consider it non-cannon and some people don't.
Gladiator burning through the hulks chest with ease using heat vision is a high feat as well... hulk has some of the best showings when it comes to durability.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
That was the best you could do deadline.. Odin wasn't trying either?
Well first of all what gave you the impression Thanos wasn't trying. Yea Odin was holding back, asking your opponent wether thet give up isn't a sign of going all out.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Okay well my point has been proven then. Ooo and yes Tyrant did tool Galactus with ease.. read it. Tyrant is beyond Skyfather.. and his fight with Thanos and Galactus make this crystal clear
A depowered Tyrant tooled Galactus....I don't think so.
I'm kinda busy.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Okay, well you haven't read enough of Tyrant's 10 appearances then lol
Maybe your right but theres still this issue of the Odin vs Thanos, also it seems to me that Thanos did have some sort of upgrade. Wasnt that wall of force initially used in a gun to control a beserker madness Thor?
The opposite isn't speculation at all… We have ON PANEL narration with Thanos talking down to Odin.. we have on panel narration of Thanos talking like he's Odin's equal. We have on panel narration of Thanos NOT backing down from Odin at ANY point in time when asked. In fact, Thanos says, No, and proceeds to charge up his hands ready to fight some more. We have ZERO on panel narration of Thanos fearing for his life or stating the speculation you just proposed. There is ZERO on panel narration backing up that speculation. There is however, on panel narration, backing up the stance I have taken. Huge difference.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The opposite isn't speculation at all… We have ON PANEL narration with Thanos talking down to Odin.. we have on panel narration of Thanos talking like he's Odin's equal. We have on panel narration of Thanos NOT backing down from Odin at ANY point in time when asked. In fact, Thanos says, No, and proceeds to charge up his hands ready to fight some more. We have ZERO on panel narration of Thanos fearing for his life or stating the speculation you just proposed. There is ZERO on panel narration backing up that speculation. There is however, on panel narration, backing up the stance I have taken. Huge difference.
For my speculation I considered everything you did, I just came by with another conclusion. Clearly Thanos wanted to be respected by Odin while he didn't care a bit of Tyrant's opinion on him; for me this clearly means Tyrant is a lesser being in Thanos's own eyes even if he happened to be more powerful.
Edit: Also, keep in mind than Thanos is/was a nihilist, standing against a selfdeclared god is much more of a testament of strength and character than facing some random cosmic broodling. Thanos is proud when facing "divinity".
This is actually the OPPOSITE of what happened on panel though Bentley. Thanos SOUGHT OUT Tyrant to test his might. He was looking to challenge a powerful foe and proceeded to do so. He even prepped (had been studying his foe) and acquired an amp just to take on said foe. In MANY less panels, he came to the conclusion that he had to leave or else he would die. This mind you, is a battle he sought out (which dismisses your premise about him wanting to fight Odin more, or it being more of a trophy for him) and prepped for. Against Odin, he wasn't trying to fight odin, he was seeking his help. He only fought Odin because Odin wasn't listening not because he sought a challenge nor did he prep nor get an amp to fight him. The on panel narration, as well as logic, clearly back up my point more than yours. There is no way around that Bentley.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Speculation. What we do know is that Thanos never mentions anything of the sort, and the way he talks to Odin, he clearly feels he is on his level. Against Tyrant, who he amped and prepped for, he admitted he would die if he didn't leave. It's very clear cut via on panel narration.
No it isn't. I specifically saw Thanos use the same technique on Thor, except he used a gun. Odin then states you used the same technique that you used on my son on me. Also Odin talks about Thanos being scientifically enhanced.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He only fought Odin because Odin wasn't listening not because he sought a challenge nor did he prep nor get an amp to fight him. The on panel narration, as well as logic, clearly back up my point more than yours. There is no way around that Bentley.
That doesn't matter. He isn't Captain America you think Thanos who kills people for fun is going to lose sleep over trying to beat the crap out of Odin? He wasn't listening so he decided to fight him.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
This is actually the OPPOSITE of what happened on panel though Bentley. Thanos SOUGHT OUT Tyrant to test his might. He was looking to challenge a powerful foe and proceeded to do so. He even prepped (had been studying his foe) and acquired an amp just to take on said foe. In MANY less panels, he came to the conclusion that he had to leave or else he would die. This mind you, is a battle he sought out (which dismisses your premise about him wanting to fight Odin more, or it being more of a trophy for him) and prepped for. Against Odin, he wasn't trying to fight odin, he was seeking his help. He only fought Odin because Odin wasn't listening not because he sought a challenge nor did he prep nor get an amp to fight him. The on panel narration, as well as logic, clearly back up my point more than yours. There is no way around that Bentley.
Again, Thanos testing his strength doesn't mean he respects a character, let's remember he traded punches with Warrior Madness Thor for no good reason. The conditions of the Tyrant fight and the Odin fight are entirely different, you said it yourself, Thanos seeked Tyrant to test his might, he saw Tyrant as a tool and he used it, in the end he was satisfied. His reaction towards Odin proved a much more personal take in the matter, he wanted to be insolent against Odin even if he risked his own safety -although Thanos probably knew it wouldn't come to that-.
The fact Thanos thought about using Tyrant dismiss any idea of truly respecting him.
Originally posted by Bentley
The fact Thanos thought about using Tyrant dismiss any idea of truly respecting him.
To be fair, Thanos has used Galactus to further his own needs as well. "Level of respect as demonstrated by whether or not he used a character" doesn't really show any indication of power levels here.
Originally posted by Deadline
That could also mean he doesn't start at FTL speed as well.
not really. he's not going to let himself get hit, so if he needs to break that barrier, he will.
Originally posted by MONSTAR
pr has a boyfriend?? Oh my.Well, to each their own i guess.
my girlfriend would kill you for that.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... that explains a lot. 😉
so if i were gay it would make me less of a person? what are you, some kind of homophobe?
Originally posted by carver9
No, just no.Here is my reasons on why Gladiator is more powerful than Supes. I'm pretty sure you cant show me anything similar.
Gladiator has other powers at his disposal.
1. He contains a solar system destroying blast.
http://img370.imageshack.us/i/wtfship2tj8.jpg/
2. He is able to sense something wrong with Human torch.
http://img113.imageshack.us/i/sensesdx6.jpg/
Shoot a beam of Cosmic Energy from his chest
http://img354.imageshack.us/i/62530030jg0.jpg/
HHHHMMM, you know Gladiator powers of confidense and the power of him basically being able to do "anything" when he puts his mind to it. Well, here, he willed himself not to be touched by Vulcans blast and thats exactly what happened.
http://img355.imageshack.us/f/89200274nk8.jpg/
Surfer admits that they are even but thats not my case... Cosmic Energy is leaking from Gladiators body.
http://img503.imageshack.us/f/45676322mi0.jpg/
Senses
Gladiator can hear light years away.
http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=astroidzt0.gif
Hyper vision allows him to see Galactus GALAXIES away.
http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hypervisionwq4.jpg
Heat vision
You do know who Tyrant is right? Tyrant is the being who held his own against Galactus. Well, Gladiator heat vision MATCHES Tyrants power. WOW... a being more powerful than a skyfather.
the fact you don't think superman has feats of equal or greater measure EVEN THOUGH I HAVE SHOWN THEM TO YOU, means you're either in denial or on crack. or both.
read some Superman before you come back in to these threads. Seriously.
Originally posted by Bentley
Again, Thanos testing his strength doesn't mean he respects a character, let's remember he traded punches with Warrior Madness Thor for no good reason. The conditions of the Tyrant fight and the Odin fight are entirely different, you said it yourself, Thanos seeked Tyrant to test his might, he saw Tyrant as a tool and he used it, in the end he was satisfied. His reaction towards Odin proved a much more personal take in the matter, he wanted to be insolent against Odin even if he risked his own safety -although Thanos probably knew it wouldn't come to that-.The fact Thanos thought about using Tyrant dismiss any idea of truly respecting him.
I can't honestly believe you are conflating the idea of "using" and respecting as mutually inclusive in regards to Tyrant. He was "using" Tyrant for anything. That is a terrible use of the word using as that isn't truly want transpired. Him LOOKING for a challenge and finding a powerful worthy foe, isn't the least bit indicative of using somebody. It only reinforces my point further. If he actually felt Odin was a worth challenge, and by your speculation, likes fighting divinity more, he could've gone back there for unfinished business. He didn't, because Odin wasn't as worthy a foe and wasn't going to test himself as much as Tyrant. You throwing around words like "using" and throwing out speculation doesn't change the plain simple facts...
1. Thanos wasn't trying to fight Odin
2. Thanos didn't prep for Odin nor have an amp for Odin
3. Thanos NEVER backed down from Tyrant nor had ANY fear for his life
4. Thanos words speaks towards him considering Odin his equal or feeling like he was his superior
In Contrast,
1. Thanos sought a powerful foe to test himself against
2. Thanos studied his foe and had one sided prep against Tyrant
3. Thanos acquired an amp just to fight said foe, even after prepping
4. Thanos felt Tyrant power, AND IN MUCH SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME, admitted he would die if he stayed and proceeded to leave.
These are undisputable facts of both encounters against a common foe in Thanos. These facts make it crystal clear who Thanos thought was more powerful and who he actually feared dying from. There was no ambiguity in any of this. Tyrant is plain more powerful than Odin. This isn't even going into him pwning Galactus with ease
Originally posted by Deadline
No it isn't. I specifically saw Thanos use the same technique on Thor, except he used a gun. Odin then states you used the same technique that you used on my son on me. Also Odin talks about Thanos being scientifically enhanced.That doesn't matter. He isn't Captain America you think Thanos who kills people for fun is going to lose sleep over trying to beat the crap out of Odin? He wasn't listening so he decided to fight him.
I'm confused on your point here Deadline. Because in integrated his force block device into his tech.. means what exactly? He wasn's prepping for Odin, he simply integrated that into his tech. We know he wasn't prepping for a fight, because he made clear on panel, he wasn't seeking a fight with Odin, but his help.
Originally posted by -Pr-
not really. he's not going to let himself get hit, so if he needs to break that barrier, he will.my girlfriend would kill you for that.
so if i were gay it would make me less of a person? what are you, some kind of homophobe?
the fact you don't think superman has feats of equal or greater measure EVEN THOUGH I HAVE SHOWN THEM TO YOU, means you're either in denial or on crack. or both.
read some Superman before you come back in to these threads. Seriously.
Pr, I was just playing about the gay comment... I don't have anything against people like that and I already know you are not gay from previoud discussions I have seen you talk about.
I will respond to the rest of your post later but I wasn't serious... that's why I put the smiley.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I can't honestly believe you are conflating the idea of "using" and respecting as mutually inclusive in regards to Tyrant. He was "using" Tyrant for anything. That is a terrible use of the word using as that isn't truly want transpired. Him LOOKING for a challenge and finding a powerful worthy foe, isn't the least bit indicative of using somebody. It only reinforces my point further. If he actually felt Odin was a worth challenge, and by your speculation, likes fighting divinity more, he could've gone back there for unfinished business. He didn't, because Odin wasn't as worthy a foe and wasn't going to test himself as much as Tyrant. You throwing around words like "using" and throwing out speculation doesn't change the plain simple facts...1. Thanos wasn't trying to fight Odin
2. Thanos didn't prep for Odin nor have an amp for Odin
3. Thanos NEVER backed down from Tyrant nor had ANY fear for his life
4. Thanos words speaks towards him considering Odin his equal or feeling like he was his superiorIn Contrast,
1. Thanos sought a powerful foe to test himself against
2. Thanos studied his foe and had one sided prep against Tyrant
3. Thanos acquired an amp just to fight said foe, even after prepping
4. Thanos felt Tyrant power, AND IN MUCH SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME, admitted he would die if he stayed and proceeded to leave.These are undisputable facts of both encounters against a common foe in Thanos. These facts make it crystal clear who Thanos thought was more powerful and who he actually feared dying from. There was no ambiguity in any of this. Tyrant is plain more powerful than Odin. This isn't even going into him pwning Galactus with ease
Thanos had no interest in Odin because he didn't need to prove himself, he just stood because he wanted to counter Odin's self importance as a divinity. That would be against the idea of both returning and leaving the battle, Thanos had to act as if it was "just a combat", but he did all that so he was somewhat invested. We're not assuming Odin was using his full power.
The situation in which he fought Tyrant is entirely different, it's so particular it's actually pretty impossible to use as an example of power.
Instead of focusing in Thanos let's see another opponent: Surfer. How did he do against Tyrant and how did he do against Odin?
Originally posted by carver9
Pr, I was just playing about the gay comment... I don't have anything against people like that and I already know you are not gay from previoud discussions I have seen you talk about.I will respond to the rest of your post later but I wasn't serious... that's why I put the smiley.
i know, i was teasing.
