Originally posted by Q99No, Ww is not. She was temp ko'd by just one all out Superman punch and DD is more of a monster than Superman is. The guy would mangle her very quickly she isn't durable or strong enough to do anything to the beast. She's simply outclassed.
...? No? Wonder Woman's quite capable of holding him off at least as well as most of the competitors.Oh wait, is this one of your "chronically underestimate WW and don't realize she's herald level despite all evidence" bits?
Or do you mean JMS Wondy?
She cut his throat and won that fight, she could've killed him if she had been so inclined, so... yea. Also afterwards she went on to fight a trio of Alpha OMACs (designed to fight Superman-class foes) maybe an hour or so later, so she wasn't even badly hurt.
Wonder Woman's also fought a Doomsdayified Superman and got the lasso around him.
Also, she's fought DD a few times and while of course she didn't win, she did better than people like Martian Manhunter have.
No-one here can beat H/P Doomsday, but when we're talking pure survival WW's pretty well off.
They're like Captain America's shield. Nothing has ever broken them in her entire history, ever. Not even stuff like Darkseid's Omega Effect.
Nor has pure strength, even DD level, ever broken the lasso.
DD's had no problem busting through GL shields before, Diana shouldn't have any problem lasting longer than him. Though... hm, Hal could get creative. What if he uses his ring to shrink you or something? In a fight he's smeared, but flexibility is an option.
WW doesn't have the offensive abilities of Supes, but her defense is higher than his.
Surfer's probably the best bet, he can do survival stuff better than Hal as well as being one of the top fighters, but Diana is far from the worst choice around.
Well, of course. Even that's generous.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman is more likely to care about his life than Surfer would, for one.
Surfer cares for life just as much as Superman does. Or at least just enough for him to actually do his best to try and keep you alive. Caring more about your life at this point doesn't really matter when one person is obviously far more capable at keeping you alive than the other.
I mean what can Superman really do against HP DD that would ensure that you won't get killed?
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Surfer cares for life just as much as Superman does. Or at least just enough for him to actually do his best to try and keep you alive. Caring more about your life at this point doesn't really matter when one person is obviously far more capable at keeping you alive than the other.I mean what can Superman really do against HP DD that would ensure that you won't get killed?
enough to try and keep you alive? maybe. i could argue the point, but it wouldn't exactly be productive.
beat him. plus, superman has experience fighting dd. norrin doesn't.
Originally posted by Starscream M
why would that make him a better choice?
see above.
Originally posted by Starscream M
what shielding?also, thor's flight is not a problem for DD imo...esp in a enclosed stadium
thor is not a mobile flier like superman unless it is long distance travel
I doubt he could remain untagged for an hour
where do you get thor is not a mobile flyer? sigh...
im gonna have to go with thor here.
Originally posted by Starscream MThat was a weaker Superman who was actually scared of him he met up with him in DD wars and imperiex he fought alongside him. far be it for me to come to the aid of Superman but if he goes toe to toe with him again it will be far different than when he clashed with him in hp for those obvious reasons.
the only experience superman has against HP DD is losing to him 😬
I do agree Surfer is better suited now since his upgrade.
Originally posted by -Pr-
enough to try and keep you alive? maybe. i could argue the point, but it wouldn't exactly be productive.
You saying he won't try or you saying he won't be successful?
Originally posted by -Pr-
beat him. plus, superman has experience fighting dd. norrin doesn't.
Experience fighting (and getting beat up) against DD doesn't exactly translate to being successful at keeping you alive. Also, with the forum stips of common knowledge (lots of ppl know about DD being an unstoppable engine of destruction), Surfer would most prolly resort to using his more exotic powers to keep you alive rather than engage DD. Superman would just engage him.
Heck, even ASSUMING Superman wins this fight, the resulting shockwave from them punching each other will no doubt kill or at least maim you.