Originally posted by srankmissingninThat's like saying Wolverine didnt stab Blade because he forgot to pop his claws. Deadpool is an expert with swords/knives.
because his back hand slash missed and the handle clipped Wolverine on the fallow through
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The fact that he connected easilly with the handle makes it clear that he could've done so with the blade if he wanted to. Wolverine not givving him an opportunity has nothing to do with it.
Originally posted by srankmissingninBecause he likes to fight.
Why does Deadpool do any of the things he does?Anyway, you mean the second "fight" where Deadpool kicked Wolverine in the face once and then Wolverine blocked his second kick with his forearm, where Deadpool's narrative stated that Wolverine had been holding back against him?
Yes, that fight. But it wasnt once. Deadpool connected with Wolverine 3 times, before Logan finally managed to block one of his attacks. Deadpool never said that Wolverine held back, he was just mocking Wolverine, saying that he's gone soft and would never try to kill him. Which doesnt change the fact that Wolverine started the fight with an attempt to slice Deadpool in two.
Originally posted by srankmissingninMaybe that would've been the case eventually. Maybe. But "save the day" implies that Deadpool was getting his ass kicked. He wasnt. He was doing all the fighting while Creed was taking all the punishment. We can only speculate what would've happened IF Cable didnt show up. But to say that Deadpool needed saving at that point is just not right. Not to mention, Wolverine isnt as durable as ST, so if Deadpool has the equipment to slow Creed down - he surely has what it takes to make the odds more even with Logan.
Sabretooth was just waiting for Deadpool to exhaust his ammunition, nothing itable and Cable came and saved the day.
Originally posted by srankmissingninWolverine doesn't "usually has the edge in melee". You think of the origins fight as of summary to all their battles. It's not. It's one crappy written fight which is the BEST showing Wolverine has had against Deadpool EVER. This fact alone suggests that the prep did no good to Deadpool. Wade has never needed anything to save him from Wolverine. Heck, he's fought Wolverine evenly while barely paying attention to him in the past. This fight while lasted for several issues wasnt nearly as intense, as some of their previous battles, most of it was just running/leading into traps and monologue. To say that Deadpool needed traps to "save" him is lowballing to an incredible degree. He wasnt fighting back in the elevator, he on purpose stopped fighting back when the car bomb went off, he didnt need saving, it went that way because Deadpool allowed it to go that way. But when he did choose to fight back, they were evenly matched. As always. Just look at the ending of the fight, and the h2h part of the fight.
Deadpool's useless traps are the only thing that saved him from Wolverine... and Wolverine wasn't even trying to win. You say Deadpool wasn't fighting like he usually he does, but that isn't true. The difference is that unlike Deadpool and Wolverine's usually fights, this one wasn't a brief exchange by rather was an extend fight that spanned several issues. All their previous fights have been brief and Wolverine has usually had the edge in melee, this was just a natural extension of those fights showcasing what would happen to Deadpool if he tried to lock blades with Wolverine in a fight.
Originally posted by srankmissingninHis healing factor wasnt that good at that point in C&D. Heck even Waypool regenerated a new head in less than 10 minutes. While in that instance his head was seperated for almost 10 minutes and was only reattached seconds before he fight. How is that fair?
Don't see how it possibly couldn't have been enough time for him to heal. Wolverine has remained underwater for over and hour with his throat ripped out and he was fine. Ten minutes of oxygen loss brain damage is a pretty mild thing for guys who heal as fast as Deadpool and Wolverine.
Originally posted by srankmissingninHe made it seem like he knows something about them in interviews. But once you read his stories it becomes crystal clear he knows next to nothing about Deadpool. Ive noticed that back when he appeared in Origins to fight Wolverine. It became even more obvious over time. The worst part, he tries to bring back old DP characters and ends up screwing them up as well.
Actually if you go back and read interviews with Way, he actually seems like he is quite knowledge of both characters, I was getting excite for Origins before it was released, he talked like he had a great grasp on the character... unfortunately he is a terribly writer. He is a much better Deadpool writer than a Wolverine one at least, but that is likely because he didn't try to do anything grandiose with the Deadpool mythos, and choose to relegate himself to slapstick
Originally posted by srankmissingninHeh, he can be random sometimes. But remember the boneclaw Wolverine fight? DP was freaking out because he started to see things. Same in C&D when Nate was messing with his head. Now its common for him to drift away and get blown up or shot because of it.
Maybe we just weren't every privy to those hallucinations? Given his dialogue trees and some of the stuff he says its not a stretch to assume that has been happening the entire time. 😎
Originally posted by srankmissingninYou're looking at it the wrong way. The baby-bomb instance. Remember how it went? They start fighting h2h, land the exact number of hits. Deadpool is doing just fine. THEN Wade decides to set the bomb in motion. What does he do? He stops fighting h2h, starts telling a joke while just avoiding Logan without fighting back and THAT'S when he gets knocked down. The bomb didnt SAVE him. The bomb was the REASON he needed saving. He wasnt worried about Logan stabbing him because he knew the bomb will be activated before it happens, that's why we see him smiling, every second of it was staged, he even meant to miss Logan with the bazooka. Key point, until he stopped fighting in order to set the trap he was doing perfectly fine in h2h. All those traps did was distract him, make him count seconds instead of fighting. While Logan healed the damage almost instantly.
The prep certainly helped him. Wolverine had Deadpool dead to rights no less than two occasions, before he was dragged away along the street car track and when Wolverine went to save the baby for the explosion. Every time the fight came into melee Wolverine had advantage, and Deadpool had to run or get saved by a plot device. The only reason Waypool even managed to ko Wolverine is because of his prep traps weakening Wayverine's already impotent healing factor.
And there was no indication that Wolverine was weakened when he got KOed. DP never needed to weaken him in the past to win. Also Deadpool himself got blown to bits during the fight, so..
Originally posted by srankmissingnin??? The werewolf fight, Deadpool got ambushed by Logan and still eneded up in a winning position. C&D a weakened Deadpool lost (because of PIS) but still was the first one to draw blood. Boneclaw Wolverine, Deadpool left him barely concious on the ground for MINUTES and went to talk with Dr. Bong. Allowed him to heal and then he continued to fight Wolverine while at the same time chatting with Bong. He was doing all the fighting in the fight posted above and in another one landed most of hits. I'll go as far as say, Deadpool's (no PIS, no CIS) win record against Wolverine is better than vise versa. Origins is the very best showing Wolverine has ever had against Deadpool and even that was because of DP's CIS (distracting useless traps) and Way's incompetence (hallucinations and extra voices). Its Wolverine who has never beaten Deadpool without a plot device or character induced stupidity, not the other way around.
Waypool vs Wayverine is not Deadpool's worst showing against Wolverine, not bywerewolf one is worse, the Cable and DP one is worse,Dr Bong and v2 shows as bad, Deadpool has never had the best of Wolverine with out prep, except the one instance where Logan was depowered.
Originally posted by srankmissingninThe second one. 😛
Which fight is it that you feel favored bone claw Wolverine more? The one where Wolverine was depowered, or the one where Deadpool was ever so slightly more insane than normal? 😎
Originally posted by srankmissingninHe wanred Deadpool about the Werewolf only after he was already pinned. When Wade's sword went through Wolverine he was still trying to get up and knew nothing about the werewolf. And those 4-5 unanswered blows were only landed when DP just stopped climbed the rooftop - no different from the ambush at the beginning of the fight, Logan didnt give him a chance to prepare for the fight. Wade only got the chance to get ready when Logan stopped to pop his claws. Grabbed his wrists and tackled him off the rooftop.
Wolverine ambushed Deadpool. Deadpool flip kicked Wolverine. Then Wolverine laid into him with four or five unanswered blows with a pipe before Deadpool tackled him through a skylight. Deadpool only manged to pin Wolverine to the wall because of the sudden appearance of a Werewolf which distracted him. Logan was even warning Deadpool about the Werewolf as the sword impaled his shoulder.