Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Hey, if Whitebeard can take Akainu's magma attack but dies from gettin shot/stabbed, I still think Priscilla can harm him. She did resist a life-draining yoki blob after all. That gives me an idea for another thread.I'n not ignoring the destructive power of Whitebeard's quakes(well maybe a little) but Priscilla can regenerate from anything that's not a headshot pretty fast. Her speed also appears to be enough to at least keep Whitebeard occupied with finding her location: unless his quakes are omni-directional I forget.
P.S: Luffy can take on Pacifistas by himself now? Sorry I haven't read anything past the time-skip so I'm lacking on my One Piece knowledge. Luffy can use his Haki potently now too?
Two things, he was only stabbed by very strong individuals, who were capable of stabbing him, and even then it took an incredible amount of punishment to take him down. Second, guns in One Piece>>>RL guns, by a good margin.
Whitebeard does not attack one part of the body. He attacks the whole thing. Stop ignoring that. Finding her location? The man is able to keep track and react to ****ers like Kizaru, who is faster than Priscilla, and was able to effortlessly stop one of Mihawk's sword blasts instantly, which are not only very fast, but capable of cutting one of those giant icebergs in half instantaneously. Shit, even Zoro was capable of dodging multiple blasts from Kuma BEFORE the timeskip, which are well into the hypersonic range.
Luffy can one-shot Pacifistas. So can Zoro and Sanji.
Originally posted by Q99
Mach-speed homing arrows almost the size of a person didn't do much to Luciela, she had to be worn down by them over an extended period, and she could also defect them pretty easily.Also, piercing steel armor is trivial for Abyssals, not-so for the East Blue saga OP characters. Priscilla specifically goes a lot further, she can casually, with one hand, rip heads or torsos off foes who are far, far tougher than Steel themselves.
Speed wise, Abyssals can pull off movements similar to Kuro's as well (Rigaldo moved too fast to see, and Isley's even faster, and he's probably not the fastest of the Abyssals).
They might not go for as overt strength feats as throwing things, but they have highly powerful concentrated attacks and strong abilities. Lifting/throwing strength vs much more concentrated power in other words.
A fight between two Abyssals can utterly destroy a landscape for miles around in a way no East Blue saga fight could come close to. I don't think Axe-Hand, Buggy, Kuro, Krieg, and Arlong working together could even make an Abyssal fight seriously in a battle.
Stronger OP stuff could stomp them, but I think you're underestimating the level of the abyssal level awakeneds.
No, hit her in most places and it'd blast a hole in her, then she'd heal it.
Past a certain point, more power doesn't equal more damage. Soft + Regen can survive where pure toughness doesn't.
Think of Priscilla like a self-healing marshmellow. She stands a chance entirely because she doesn't rely on toughness.
I mean, she is highly tough as well being an Awakened, but that's not the source of her survival.
Haki gives warning but it hardly cancels out speed entirely, as the Boa sisters learned. Getting out of the way of a lightspeed attack isn't particularly harder than any other attack, it's just moving out of the way of a strait line.
Also, reading what your opponent is going to do is a standard ability for Claymore too, and she got Teresa, the best of it, with her pure speed. So yea, she should be able to handle it.
Considering the style of damage he's inflicted on others, I don't see why it would. His attacks don't obliterate their targets like that.
On the whole, yes. However, there's also a wider range of power levels in Claymore. Five Claymore are about equal to one normal Awakened one. An Abyssal One is stronger than 30 normal Awakeneds.
Priscilla utterly stomps Abyssals to the point she does not even have to transform into her awakened mode in order to kill two Abyssals at the same time while acting calm about it.
Luciela is an Abyssal One. I was talking about characters in the East Blue.
Once again, East Blue. And it was not long after leaving it, that Zoro became capable of cutting through steel regularly. Hell, how about another good feat from Zoro? Remember Skypiea? With the giant ass beanstalk? Remember when Zoro was easily cutting large chunks of it out at a time? Now do you remember how the giant ass snake, hundreds of feet long, could barely budge it, AFTER Zoro already weakened it? It took a Reject Dial to replicate Zoro's damage, and this is a weaker Zoro.
Kuro is an East Blue character. Luffy was able to react to Kuro's Shakushi back then. Kuro became a slug in comparison to CP9, his Shakushi being stated to be as fast as basic Soru, only he had less control over it. Luffy surpassed that kind of movement speed when he learned Soru, and the Gears amplify that. So Luffy, despite being a class 100 hypersonic fighter, was still almost IRRELEVANT in the battle of Marineford. That was what that served to show, that Luffy still had a long way to go. Whitebeard was the strongest person there.
More concentrated? Whitebeard can concentrate an Earthquake to a single person. He can concentrate attacks if he so chooses.
Sorry, that was actually a typo. Meant Luffy was physically stronger than most Awakened Ones, Luffy in East Blue could not defeat an Abyssal, yes, that is true.
Stronger OP stuff could solo Claymore as a series. Including Priscilla. Granted, that is largely because of broken, destructive Logias like Enel, Akainu, Kizaru, and the like, but still.
That is merely one way to use the attack. When he concentrates the Quake to a hypocenter, usually his fist or the blade of his bisento, and strikes with it. That kind of force would blow Priscilla in half, and despite her regeneration, it will not be quick enough to save her from the following attack. Whitebeard needs to do very little to make quakes, his every movement can cause them, and he can use it both defensively to intercept foes or attacks, or obviously offensively. He can even passively create shockwaves around his body to better protect himself.
It may as well, when the speed difference is either not that great, does not exist at all, or is in fact opposite of what you believe it to be. Whitebeard is fast enough to appear behind Akainu without him noticing before it is too late, and casually reacts to attacks from Mihawk, Kizaru, Aokiji, and Akainu.
You mean when Priscilla cheap shot her after Teresa got done kicking her ass? And IIRC, wasn't Priscilla especially hard for Teresa to track?
OP characters are pretty durable then, considering how he obliterated those island sized icebergs.
Greater variety? Seriously? Let's compare two marines. Say, Axe-Hand Morgan, to Akainu. Akainu is hundreds of times more powerful than Axe-Hand. Akainu then proceeded to get wrecked by Whitebeard. Power varies alot in OP.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Not really. There's an exponential growth between a fighting claymore and an awakened being...even more so for a single digit.Now, the difference in power between an abyssal one and an awakened being is also exponential: many awakened beings are nothing to an abyssal one.
No, Priscilla, after she hadn't fed for several years (in her most weakened form, basically), abyssal ones seemed like "nothing" to her.
So, trace back to the beginning against two high ranked Claymores whose blade exchanges, alone, caused a whole town to experience an earthquake. Then "grow" exponentially and we have an awakened being. Grow exponentially from that, and we have an abyssal one. Grow significantly beyond that, we have the weakest version of priscilla.
Power level is definitely over 9000 for Priscilla.
What I see is the fight ending in far less than fractions of a second as Priscilla does not do any of that filler villain talk shite.
It's kinda funny how someone can type so much without really saying anything.
You have provided nothing but a series of estimations, and nothing substantial.
Whitebeard can kill Priscilla in one attack, and Priscilla is not fast enough to stop him.
Originally posted by Q99
An important thing to keep in mind is that Priscilla could solo the rest of Claymore easily, with only one other known thing being able to put up so much as a fight (the Statue).Whitebeard's tough and skilled enough (and does have the haki warning thing) I don't see that happening.
While Whitebeard cannot solo the whole of OP, it being much larger, there are OP characters who could solo Claymore, Priscilla included. No one in Claymore has his power output, raw durability and endurance, strength, and even their speed is no issue.