Cyclopes vs Colossus

Ummm...

Since when was 4000 tons supposed to be a big feat for class 100s? Despite the description, class 100s don't simply mean guys who can lift/press 100 tons. Spiderman despite feats of lifting or bracing hundreds of tons is not a class 100 guy.

You have to understand how small 100 tons can be in relative terms. Single slabs of stone from Stonehenge alone weighs 50 or so tons.

Matching strength, however briefly, with WWH a guy who can manage quintillion or so tons, puts you way above lifting 4000 or so. That's like a small building.

Lifting/pressing is what it is indicated by but that shouldn't be overall strength. Spider-Man generally does those high end feats by adrenaline or desperation, but not casually, so I wouldn't put him at a "casual 100" like Colossus. Especially in a forum match. Just like Wolverine has some feats lifting more than what his "listed" weight it. I personally wouldn't put him at a casual multitonner.

In the big scale of things 100 tons isn't a huge amount, but Colossus and Thing in the whole picture aren't that strong either, comparitvely.

Originally posted by Starscream M
well, if you go by superman's high feats, 4000 tons wouldn't represent even 1% of what he could lift

8 million lbs. I was trying to think of something off hand though.

damn it...why do you keep referring to pounds...its confusing lol

Like I said 100 tons is very small.

Peter could hold up two slabs of stone from Stonehenge on ANY day.

edit: And yes, stop using lbs gawt damnit. 😛

colossus puched his way throw a mountain once

Originally posted by Starscream M
just curious, but how much do you think superman lifts (I have a feeling you vastly underestimate his strength)

sorry, but I not the ignorant one here.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Ummm...

Since when was 4000 tons supposed to be a big feat for class 100s? Despite the description, class 100s don't simply mean guys who can lift/press 100 tons. Spiderman despite feats of lifting or bracing hundred[b]s of tons is not a class 100 guy.
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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
colossus puched his way throw a mountain once

and?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Lifting/pressing is what it is indicated by but that shouldn't be overall strength. Spider-Man generally does those high end feats by adrenaline or desperation, but not casually, so I wouldn't put him at a "casual 100" like Colossus. Especially in a forum match. Just like Wolverine has some feats lifting more than what his "listed" weight it. I personally wouldn't put him at a casual multitonner.

In the big scale of things 100 tons isn't a huge amount, but Colossus and Thing in the whole picture aren't that strong either, comparitvely.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
as much as he dam wants, he moved planets before.

sorry, but I not the ignorant one here.

Originally posted by Starscream M
the fact that you even needed evidence to prove colossus was a CL100 proves you're quite ignorant of colossus' abilities 😬

I have forgotten more about colossus then you will learn in a life time.

also if you wanna push this at least bring it to a thread were this is more relevent such as
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=27495&pagenumber=46#post13144332

keep thinking I am ignorant of colossus, oh the shock you are gunna receive in are battle zone when I end up posting more scans of colossus then you do, and your arguing for him.

Originally posted by Starscream M
damn it...why do you keep referring to pounds...its confusing lol

2 ton base for Wolverine? What would be his max lift in your opinion DDD?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Because it puts more perspective on things.

2 ton base for Wolverine? What would be his max lift in your opinion DDD?

which isent that much considering some one like spiderman is 15 tonner but max out more then doubling that.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
personally at his max he hitting around 5 tons. but he normally around 1.5-2 tonner. (people will find this rediculous, which they should not considering how many characters lift far more then this compared with what there base strength is)

which isent that much considering some one like spiderman is 15 tonner but max out more then doubling that.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
5 tons did sound higher than I expected, what gives you that number if I may be honored to ask?

I mean he throw a dumpster with ease one handed several feat and fast (while being bone class no less),carried a concert grand piano through a jungle, up rapids, and climbind a mountain with it, use a tree as a base ball bat ect. (all non berserker mind you)

So you mean he's class 5 while beserk?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So you mean he's class 5 while beserk?

He has feats while normal that put him in casual 2 ton range such as the ones I mention above, but then while beserker he has feats that put him beyond even 5 tons, but there not lifitng feats there against other establish characters like overpowering then, breaking from holds ect. So it hard to gage his strength. So to be save I go with 5 tons while berserker

but I am also someone who believe spiderman can lift when pushed 50 tons or even higher, so perhaps my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt.

What if you like salt? 😛

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
What if you like salt? 😛

I remember some one earlier stating that cyclopes could aim for colossus face, which is something he could/would do and has

http://pics.livejournal.com/wal_lace/pic/00049ppz

This is interesting, becuase it kinda of a feat that helps both side of the debate. Colossuswith stood the high power blast from cyclopes, but it did hurt him, but did not KO him. However it was not scot full power blast it should be mentioned.

I'm not a salt eater.

I would say some feats you mentioned seem to be more stamina related. But a small difference in opinion isn't enough for me to argue and go off topic with you about. 😛