What herald level can beat classic hercules in pure H2H

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What herald level can beat classic hercules in pure H2H

sans wonder woman

Apoc

destroyer, animated by...hell, anyone.

does h2h include shapeshifting?

I don't think WW would beat Herc.

She's probably better at him in every skill--maybe equal in wrestling, but he's still stronger and more durable than her.

Originally posted by King Castle
does h2h include shapeshifting?
no

so no morphing blades to stab.. gotcha.

apocalypse is out...

Maxam has a good chance of beating him

Sersi

😛

Danny Rand. Assuming he can go on a perfect run dodging all of Hercs shots. He is fast enough to dodge them but its unlikely. BTW with his recent absurd chi amp showings he's easily minimum class 75 on chi amp. That coupled with his skills I say he's now herald.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
I don't think WW would beat Herc.

She's probably better at him in every skill--maybe equal in wrestling, but he's still stronger and more durable than her.

Uhhh... no...

Even in the cross-over (yes, I know - non-cannon, blah blah), Diana was clearly indicated as being more skilled, at least equally strong, and certainly comparable in terms of general durability (Classic Herc does make out better in terms of long-term endurance -- Diana can even go for days, if need be, but does need rest/sleep eventually; his general "immortality" is, of course, over her, as well). Even in DC, Diana has defeated Hercules, directly, in his ascended god incarnation, (as opposed to "mere" demi-god status, whom she's been owning since 1941), where his abilities are greater than his "standard"/classic mythos (him holding up Themiscyra, and even large portions of the Earth and similar feats of strength/power).

WW>Hercules, in DC as well as Marvel (obviously, his current uber-god status would make him a stomp over her, of course, but generally speaking...)

*****

Space Mummy's "Destroyer" reference may or may not have been intended for humor, but is true never-the-less; even the Sersi "joke" is not unfounded -- Herc is not always the wisest, and she can make with some considerable mojo... (Yeah, I know -- he makes with the Daddy-Mack, and she's just as likely to make like Jen and go spread-eagle...)

Originally posted by Uriel005
Danny Rand. Assuming he can go on a perfect run dodging all of Hercs shots. He is fast enough to dodge them but its unlikely. BTW with his recent absurd chi amp showings he's easily minimum class 75 on chi amp. That coupled with his skills I say he's now herald.
i cant/wont bother to think where exactly herald is right now but i cant imagine this being so.

Originally posted by tideoftime
Even in the cross-over

Stopped reading immediately.

You know its not canon, so don't even reference it. At all.

Yes, Herc is stronger and more durable than her where it matters. In his own continuity.

Originally posted by tideoftime
Uhhh... no...

Even in the cross-over (yes, I know - non-cannon, blah blah), Diana was clearly indicated as being more skilled, at least equally strong, and certainly comparable in terms of general durability (Classic Herc does make out better in terms of long-term endurance -- Diana can even go for days, if need be, but does need rest/sleep eventually; his general "immortality" is, of course, over her, as well). Even in DC, Diana has defeated Hercules, directly, in his ascended god incarnation, (as opposed to "mere" demi-god status, whom she's been owning since 1941), where his abilities are greater than his "standard"/classic mythos (him holding up Themiscyra, and even large portions of the Earth and similar feats of strength/power).

WW>Hercules, in DC as well as Marvel (obviously, his current uber-god status would make him a stomp over her, of course, but generally speaking...)

*****

Space Mummy's "Destroyer" reference may or may not have been intended for humor, but is true never-the-less; even the Sersi "joke" is not unfounded -- Herc is not always the wisest, and she can make with some considerable mojo... (Yeah, I know -- he makes with the Daddy-Mack, and she's just as likely to make like Jen and go spread-eagle...)

The only thing WW has over Marvel Herc is speed.

Thor.

And Wonder Woman isn't beating Hercules in hand to hand combat.

Originally posted by tideoftime
Uhhh... no...

Even in the cross-over (yes, I know - non-cannon, blah blah), Diana was clearly indicated as being more skilled, at least equally strong, and certainly comparable in terms of general durability (Classic Herc does make out better in terms of long-term endurance -- Diana can even go for days, if need be, but does need rest/sleep eventually; his general "immortality" is, of course, over her, as well). Even in DC, Diana has defeated Hercules, directly, in his ascended god incarnation, (as opposed to "mere" demi-god status, whom she's been owning since 1941), where his abilities are greater than his "standard"/classic mythos (him holding up Themiscyra, and even large portions of the Earth and similar feats of strength/power).

WW>Hercules, in DC as well as Marvel (obviously, his current uber-god status would make him a stomp over her, of course, but generally speaking...)

Lol.

Herc already beat Thor in hth.

Originally posted by Mindset
Herc already beat Thor in hth.

When?

And yes, even in Blood Oath, he never actually defeated Thor.

Most Hercules fans love bringing up one writer's attempt to throw Hercules a bone by claiming his slightly more skilled. Unfortunately, I can bring up evidence that shows Thor outperforming the Olympian physically.

You take one, you take the other.

Either way, if you don't think Thor can beat Hercules in hand to hand combat, you're delusional.

You know when.

I wasn't aware the word slightly was mentioned, I'm aware Thor said Herc was better though.

Ok, I can bring up evidence of Herc beating Thor in a hth fight in a thread about hth.

Either way, Herc beat Thor in hth.

Did I mention who beat whom in hth?

Originally posted by Mindset
You know when.

I wasn't aware the word slightly was mentioned, I'm aware Thor said Herc was better though.

Ok, I can bring up evidence of Herc beating Thor in a hth fight in a thread about hth.

Either way, Herc beat Thor in hth.

Did I mention who beat whom in hth?

I hope you aren't talking about the Thorcules and HercuThor fight.

Whether you're aware of it or not, doesn't change the fact that it's what Thor said. Hercules is slightly better than Thor in hand to hand combat. Thor completely outperforming Hercules physically, would offset a slight skill advantage.

When?

Yeah Thor in thought bubbles said Herc is slightly his better in h2h.

All the while he was looking dead-eyed up in the sky as Herc was putting him out with an RNC.

It was a pretty funny visual.

But yeah Thor can get some wins out of Herc in h2h, Gotta give Herc the slight majority though.

I'm talking about when Herc had Thor in a chokehold and Thor using lightning.

Thor lifted more than the sky?

When what?