Asgard vs. Olympus

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kbclassof09 The Great Demi-Saiyan
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Yiour correct on the earth. However does Zeus have anything on Odin in terms of magic. Creating the world as far as i know is bigger then anything Zeus has don't??? Physical strength i don't think either have many feats in the myth??? The thing that puts the Greek gods over the norse is they don't age but thats about it

Actually there are many of strength feats in greek mythology...

Zeus threw Mount Etna on the giant Typhon
Athena threw the island of sicily on top of a giant in the war of the gods/giants.
Ares lifted mount pangaeus and threatened to throw it in the river of peneus. He could also cause city/mountain range shaking earthquakes by banging his spear into his shield.
Poseidon threw the island of Nisyros on top of a giant in the war of the gods/giants. And there are many more strength feats in the myth.

Norse gods, however, are weak. All of them combined couldn't lift the leg of a giant off the neck of Thor, and Magni was the only one who could do it. The only norse gods with the physical strength to battle the greek gods is Thor and Magni, and Magni was already stronger than Thor even as an infant.

DarkOdin Senior Member

Originally posted by kbclassof09
Actually there are many of strength feats in greek mythology...

Zeus threw Mount Etna on the giant Typhon
Athena threw the island of sicily on top of a giant in the war of the gods/giants.
Ares lifted mount pangaeus and threatened to throw it in the river of peneus. He could also cause city/mountain range shaking earthquakes by banging his spear into his shield.
Poseidon threw the island of Nisyros on top of a giant in the war of the gods/giants. And there are many more strength feats in the myth.

Norse gods, however, are weak. All of them combined couldn't lift the leg of a giant off the neck of Thor, and Magni was the only one who could do it. The only norse gods with the physical strength to battle the greek gods is Thor and Magni, and Magni was already stronger than Thor even as an infant.

At the same token Thor lifted at one point what he thought was a giant come of ale when it turned out to be the ocean that feat alone tops any of the one you just listed and if magni is even stronger good for him. I thought think the norse are as weak as you say or to make out granted it has been a long time since i read up on them. But battle the giant Ymir one would need to have great strnegth just from the size of him. The Norse myths are just alot harder to research such the greek are much much more popullar. but iam sure i could dig up some others

kbclassof09 The Great Demi-Saiyan
Originally posted by DarkOdin
At the same token Thor lifted at one point what he thought was a giant come of ale when it turned out to be the ocean that feat alone tops any of the one you just listed and if magni is even stronger good for him. I thought think the norse are as weak as you say or to make out granted it has been a long time since i read up on them. But battle the giant Ymir one would need to have great strnegth just from the size of him. The Norse myths are just alot harder to research such the greek are much much more popullar. but iam sure i could dig up some others

Thor did not lift an ocean. He went to the land of the giants to engage in some feats of prowess... One of his challenges was to drink more ale than his challenger, but his drinking horn was really connected to the ocean, and he severely lowered the water level of the ocean.

basilisk Senior Member

Originally posted by kbclassof09
Thor did not lift an ocean. He went to the land of the giants to engage in some feats of prowess... One of his challenges was to drink more ale than his challenger, but his drinking horn was really connected to the ocean, and he severely lowered the water level of the ocean.
Yeah how dumb is Thor to fall for that old trick? "Hmm this ale doth begin to appear as water and to taste extremely salty... glug glug glug... indeed 'tis nothing like ale at all... glug glug glug... Odin's blood my giant opponent still goes at it - I must continue to drink copiously of this foul draft or forfeit... glug glug glug...". Drinking that much seawater would cause dehydration, bloating, kidney failure, and unconsciousness.

kbclassof09 The Great Demi-Saiyan

Ok time to make this thread more interesting....

The greatest feat of strength in Greek mythology was Heracles and Atlas holding the weight of the sky. All of the air in Earth's sky weighs nearly 6 quadrillion tons. That is a weight equivalent to a billion great pyramids!!

The greatest feat of strength in Norse mythology was Thor lifting the head and tail of the Midgard serpent. A few members from different forums calculated the weight of the serpent and it ended up to be million or billions of tons. That is very wrong. Here I will give the most accurate calculation of the midgard serpent's weight. First I will use the dimensions of an average anaconda. The average anaconda is 20 feet long by 1 feet wide and weighs 330 pounds. The length of the serpent is equal to the circumference of the earth which is 25,000 miles. 1 mile= 5280 feet. 25000 miles multiplied by 5280 feet equals 132,000,000 feet.
132,000,000 feet/20 feet= 6,600,000. So that means that the length of the anaconda have to increase 6,600,000 times in order to match the circumference of the earth, and weight is proportional to length cubed. So that would be 6600000x6600000x6600000x330 lb=94873680000000000000000 lbs/2000= 47,436,840,000,000,000,000 tons or over 47 quintillion tons!!! That is more than half the weight of the moon!! But thor only lifted the head and tail of the midgard serpent instead of its entire weight.

DarkOdin Senior Member

Originally posted by kbclassof09
Ok time to make this thread more interesting....

The greatest feat of strength in Greek mythology was Heracles and Atlas holding the weight of the sky. All of the air in Earth's sky weighs nearly 6 quadrillion tons. That is a weight equivalent to a billion great pyramids!!

The greatest feat of strength in Norse mythology was Thor lifting the head and tail of the Midgard serpent. A few members from different forums calculated the weight of the serpent and it ended up to be million or billions of tons. That is very wrong. Here I will give the most accurate calculation of the midgard serpent's weight. First I will use the dimensions of an average anaconda. The average anaconda is 20 feet long by 1 feet wide and weighs 330 pounds. The length of the serpent is equal to the circumference of the earth which is 25,000 miles. 1 mile= 5280 feet. 25000 miles multiplied by 5280 feet equals 132,000,000 feet.
132,000,000 feet/20 feet= 6,600,000. So that means that the length of the anaconda have to increase 6,600,000 times in order to match the circumference of the earth, and weight is proportional to length cubed. So that would be 6600000x6600000x6600000x330 lb=94873680000000000000000 lbs/2000= 47,436,840,000,000,000,000 tons or over 47 quintillion tons!!! That is more than half the weight of the moon!! But thor only lifted the head and tail of the midgard serpent instead of its entire weight.

Are we talking about the myth or the comics in this one???

DarkOdin Senior Member

Originally posted by kbclassof09
Thor did not lift an ocean. He went to the land of the giants to engage in some feats of prowess... One of his challenges was to drink more ale than his challenger, but his drinking horn was really connected to the ocean, and he severely lowered the water level of the ocean.
One end of the horn was connet to the sea He had to lift it upside down in order to drink it.

kbclassof09 The Great Demi-Saiyan
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Are we talking about the myth or the comics in this one???

Both pantheons are at their mythic power levels

kbclassof09 The Great Demi-Saiyan

[QUOTE=13147950]Originally posted by DarkOdin
One end of the horn was connet to the sea He had to lift it upside down in order to drink it. [/QUOTE

It was a magical illusion the bottom end of the drinking horn was connected to the ocean itself. Thor did not lift an ocean.

DarkOdin Senior Member

Originally posted by kbclassof09
[QUOTE=13147950]Originally posted by DarkOdin
[B]One end of the horn was connet to the sea He had to lift it upside down in order to drink it. [/QUOTE

It was a magical illusion the bottom end of the drinking horn was connected to the ocean itself. Thor did not lift an ocean. [/B]

DEpending on which of the 90 different version of the myth Thor lifted the horn to drink then put it back down and caught his breath and did it again. However it was clear that one end of the Horn was atached to the ocean how it is not clear. The same when Thor lifted the serphant in the same story he only lifted a paw of a cat. Thor was lifted something with the horn and the cat he just didn't see what exactily was going on

kbclassof09 The Great Demi-Saiyan
Originally posted by DarkOdin
DEpending on which of the 90 different version of the myth Thor lifted the horn to drink then put it back down and caught his breath and did it again. However it was clear that one end of the Horn was atached to the ocean how it is not clear. The same when Thor lifted the serphant in the same story he only lifted a paw of a cat. Thor was lifted something with the horn and the cat he just didn't see what exactily was going on

It appeared to be a normal but rather long drinking horn to Thor. The drinking horn did not contain the ocean. Its just that Thor could never finish the drinking horn because the endless supply of water from the ocean always kept it full.

DarkOdin Senior Member

Originally posted by kbclassof09
It appeared to be a normal but rather long drinking horn to Thor. The drinking horn did not contain the ocean. Its just that Thor could never finish the drinking horn because the endless supply of water from the ocean always kept it full.
We can't tell that from the myths. It was clear he picked it up and in some stories it was directily conneted to the sea in others it was magiclly refilled. Too many version of a story that changes through time and translation. your look to one version i look to another. There is no right or wrong just many different version. The Norse myths are hard researchedcompared to the greeks b/c of the lack of written records compared to the greeks and romans and lack of general interest.

keiththegreat Senior Member

When Zeus fought Thor for months, Zeus said Thor was more impressive than when Zeus fought all the other Olympians COMBINED. Also, Zeus has no galaxy-busting feats like Odin does.

But I don't know enough about the mythology powers to know the answer for sure. Normal comic versions, Asgard would stomp this.

Colossus-Big C Restricted

Originally posted by keiththegreat
When Zeus fought Thor for months, Zeus said Thor was more impressive than when Zeus fought all the other Olympians COMBINED.
no true though, many olympions have gone toe toe with thor and gave him a run for his money.

(zeus recently one shotted thor)

also in comic version asgard wouldnt "stomp" it already happend and it was a stalemate so its that.

keiththegreat Senior Member
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
no true though, many olympions have gone toe toe with thor and gave him a run for his money

I'm just saying what Zeus said. But I also remember Thor beating Ares and Hades at once.

Colossus-Big C Restricted

Originally posted by keiththegreat
I'm just saying what Zeus said. But I also remember Thor beating Ares and Hades at once.
hades is inconsistant, at his high levels he one shotted dr strange(sourceror supreme) and knocked out hulk
he even one shotted Hela at one point the time he went to asgard to kill odin

kbclassof09 The Great Demi-Saiyan
Originally posted by DarkOdin
We can't tell that from the myths. It was clear he picked it up and in some stories it was directily conneted to the sea in others it was magiclly refilled. Too many version of a story that changes through time and translation. your look to one version i look to another. There is no right or wrong just many different version. The Norse myths are hard researchedcompared to the greeks b/c of the lack of written records compared to the greeks and romans and lack of general interest.

Dude its only one version of that myth and it says that one end of the drinkin horn was connected to the ocean/sea. The drinking horn did not contain I REPEAT did not contain the ocean. I rest my case.

DarkOdin Senior Member

Originally posted by kbclassof09
Dude its only one version of that myth and it says that one end of the drinkin horn was connected to the ocean/sea. The drinking horn did not contain I REPEAT did not contain the ocean. I rest my case.
There is not only 1 version of the myth every book that writes from a book on norse greek etc, have their own version and on top of that then people view and write the books in different manners for what they think it should be. It that simple.

THe horn doesn't cotain the ocean it was conneted to it on one end as the myths goes therefore if he lifted the horn he lifted the ocean. The cup didn't get refilledeverytime he put it down. it was a constant flow through the horn from the ocean to Thor.

kbclassof09 The Great Demi-Saiyan

Originally posted by DarkOdin
There is not only 1 version of the myth every book that writes from a book on norse greek etc, have their own version and on top of that then people view and write the books in different manners for what they think it should be. It that simple.

THe horn doesn't cotain the ocean it was conneted to it on one end as the myths goes therefore if he lifted the horn he lifted the ocean. The cup didn't get refilledeverytime he put it down. it was a constant flow through the horn from the ocean to Thor.

Whatever Im done explaining this to you

WhiteWitchKing Senior Member

Maybe you two should cite your own sources on this and compare how valid each source is.