Heralds vs Odin

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Haha, you think current Silver Surfer somehow allows the team to win?

How exactly?

The other team can damage him and wear him down before he takes them all out.

Odin can't hang with the current cream of the cosmic crop anymore.

Oh boy. This should be good.

Odin even if he has to work for it

Originally posted by quanchi112
Powerful and durable enough to take him on straight up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He's made mincemeat out of BrB whereas Thor himself has withstood attacks from Odin.

How does any of this support your above statement about Surfer in comparison to Odin? Bill and Surfer were going toe to toe until he blindsided him from behind. Great showing for Surfer, but seeing as how Odin wouldn't even bother fighting Bill, I fail to see how this matters.

So what? We've already seen how Surfer matches up against an attack against Odin and it's a one shot knock out. You don't get to ignore that somehow and focus on a high end showing for Thor just because you choose to.

By the way, Odin would annihilate Thor as well. Odin would beat the shit out of Thor, Bill, and Surfer at the same time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Surfer's durability survived something that took out Galactus level beings which impressed Galactus himself.

You see, now you're just being dishonest. Surfer directed the Crunch energies which consumed the two primordial Gods. He was at best nothing more than a conduit for the power which would have killed him if not for Galan. Impressing Galactus is great. Doesn't prove shit unfortunately.

And they weren't even killed for some reason.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The other team can damage him and wear him down before he takes them all out.

GTFO. He one shots them all with a wave of his hand.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin can't hang with the current cream of the cosmic crop anymore.

You're a moron. Your hate for Odin because of the *ss kicking he gave Thanos has reached ridiculous levels.

Originally posted by dmills
Oh boy. This should be good.

Quan's joke. He doesn't even try anymore. At least he use to be a half decent troll. I liked him then as he made me laugh at times.

5 gets you 10 he rewrites the same shit.

Edit: Course now that I've said that...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

How does any of this support your above statement about Surfer in comparison to Odin? Bill and Surfer were going toe to toe until he blindsided him from behind. Great showing for Surfer, but seeing as how Odin wouldn't even bother fighting Bill, I fail to see how this matters.

So what? We've already seen how Surfer matches up against an attack against Odin and it's a one shot knock out. You don't get to ignore that somehow and focus on a high end showing for Thor just because you choose to.

By the way, Odin would annihilate Thor as well. Odin would beat the shit out of Thor, Bill, and Surfer at the same time.

You see, now you're just being dishonest. Surfer directed the Crunch energies which consumed the two primordial Gods. He was at best nothing more than a conduit for the power which would have killed him if not for Galan. Impressing Galactus is great. Doesn't prove shit unfortunately.

And they weren't even killed for some reason.

GTFO. He one shots them all with a wave of his hand.

You're a moron. Your hate for Odin because of the *ss kicking he gave Thanos has reached ridiculous levels.

Odin was possessed and nuts was landing attacks on Thor and it didn't put him down and Surfer is far more durable than either Thor or Bill.

Surfer's been upgraded since then so it's irrelevant. Against the old surfer I think Odin wins hence the reason I asked. I am the most unbiased poster you might ever meet and answer everything objectively.

Not the new Surfer, sorry I don't think so. You can say he beats current Thor and Bill but don't lump the Surfer in here he doesn't get humiliated by the ufoes and he's already destroyed an all out bill while holding back.

The feat didn't kill him so it's a ridiculously impressve durability feat. I didn't say he can replicate the feat I stated it's an uber durability showing since this destroyed two Galactus level beings and even his creator Galactus was impressed he still lived.

It proves durability don't be mad at me, ragey.

Nah, don't think so. Surfer is for one in his face from the word jump since he's far faster. I see Odin getting dropped by the board to the back of the dome multiple times and the team just picking up the pieces.

No, I am brilliant and you are emotional. Team wins.

Rage i would hate to see you banned and Quan not it looks like his trollfu is getting to you

Why would I get banned? I haven't ever gotten a warning as far as I know. And calling Quan a moron isn't worth one unless he cries foul.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They weren't going toe to toe Bill attacked a calm surfer and it did nothing to him. Surfer then beat the snot out of him while holding back. Bill was very desperate and Surfer was holding back and he beat him down with supreme ease. if you feel Surfer went all out you interpreted the scene wrong. Not my problem it's yours.

Ignoring you're very skewed interpretation of the events (I just don't care enough), let's say Surfer did easily stomp Bill and was twice as powerful as him. How does that prove he stands even a semblance of a chance against Odin?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin was possessed and nuts was landing attacks on Thor and it didn't put him down and Surfer is far more durable than either Thor or Bill.

So? Odin could annihilate Thor with two waves of his hand. He'd annihilate Surfer with one. That's hilarious.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Surfer's been upgraded since then so it's irrelevant. Against the old surfer I think Odin wins hence the reason I asked. I am the most unbiased poster you might ever meet and answer everything objectively.

Surfer's vague upgrade didn't make him multiple times more powerful than he was in the past. Lying's a sin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not the new Surfer, sorry I don't think so. You can say he beats current Thor and Bill but don't lump the Surfer in here he doesn't get humiliated by the ufoes and he's already destroyed an all out bill while holding back.

😂 You want to lowball now do you? Did you forget that it was current Surfer that was humiliated by Black Panther? That was much worse than Thor getting jumped by the Sentry, then blasted by an all out X-ray, Vector, Iron Patriot, Moonstone, to no end, then getting jumped by all of them. Not to mention the U-Foes could have been amped by the Norn Stones.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The feat didn't kill him so it's a ridiculously impressve durability feat. I didn't say he can replicate the feat I stated it's an uber durability showing since this destroyed two Galactus level beings and even his creator Galactus was impressed he still lived.

The feat would have killed him if Galan had not saved his life. And what exactly does it prove? That it would take an infinitesimal greater fraction of Odin's power to one shot Surfer?

Surfer channeled the energies of the Crunch. Nothing more. I might as well use every scene that Thor creates a God Blast as a feat of durability as the power flows through him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It proves durability don't be mad at me, ragey.

I'm not mad at you. You can't possibly matter enough to get me mad. I will admit that you're denseness annoys me at times.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah, don't think so. Surfer is for one in his face from the word jump since he's far faster. I see Odin getting dropped by the board to the back of the dome multiple times and the team just picking up the pieces.

facepalm

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I am brilliant and you are emotional. Team wins.

Brilliant? baka

Emotional? Lulz.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why would I get banned? I haven't ever gotten a warning as far as I know. And calling Quan a moron isn't worth one unless he cries foul.

Ignoring you're very skewed interpretation of the events (I just don't care enough), let's say Surfer did easily stomp Bill and was twice as powerful as him. How does that prove he stands even a semblance of a chance against Odin?

So? Odin could annihilate Thor with two waves of his hand. He'd annihilate Surfer with one. That's hilarious.

Surfer's vague upgrade didn't make him multiple times more powerful than he was in the past. Lying's a sin.

😂 You want to lowball now do you? Did you forget that it was current Surfer that was humiliated by Black Panther? That was much worse than Thor getting jumped by the Sentry, then blasted by an all out X-ray, Vector, Iron Patriot, Moonstone, to no end, then getting jumped by all of them. Not to mention the U-Foes could have been amped by the Norn Stones.

The feat would have killed him if Galan had not saved his life. And what exactly does it prove? That it would take an infinitesimal greater fraction of Odin's power to one shot Surfer?

Surfer channeled the energies of the Crunch. Nothing more. I might as well use every scene that Thor creates a God Blast as a feat of durability as the power flows through him.

I'm not mad at you. You can't possibly matter enough to get me mad. I will admit that you're denseness annoys me at times.

facepalm

Brilliant? baka

Emotional? Lulz.

Odin was trying to kill Thor when Hela was in control of him iirc and it didn't kill him so your theories are contradicted on panel when he actually wanted to kill him and failed to do so. granted Thor fled like a coward but that's besides the point.

I disagree. I think him easily owning Bill is proof of this.

That Surfer survived something with this much power to take out two beings far more powerful than Odin by himself. You gave him a team against a character who needs to rest when he uses too much power. It's unfair for Odin. I mean Odin hasn't even been able to affect a Celestial with two other skyfathers amping his blast and despite amping himself with the uni mind, the souls of asgard save Thor, and the Destroyer armor he was still nothing to them. Odin's a skyfather but a joke to the upper powers of the universe with prep and with a huge amp. Surfer took two out on his own on the fly and still survived. Odin was easily bested. Food for thought.

Nah, Thor isn't durable like the Surfer even preupgrade. Like I said impressive Galactus with surviving taking two of these characters out is amazing.

Another insult when I simply disagree with you. Imo insulting someone simply for disagreeing with you within a thread that hasn't been closed for spite is getting emotional.

I stand by my words whereas you don't. You just make random unsupported statements like he oneshots the Surfer when he's obviously better than he ever was which you are basing ythis off of a fight that happened like 20 years ago.

Things change go with the times not against them.

🙂

Didn't Rulk beat Surfer not too long ago? Has he been upgraded since then or are we classifying that as PIS?

Team would own Thanos, but it loses to Odin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That alone doesn't on his own but it does prove he's far more durable than when Thor raped him during blood and thunder imo.

Where during that fight did he prove his far more durable than before? He took two hits from Bill, was knocked off his board, and then got up. If you think that makes him far more durable than he was before Annihilation, you're really underestimating Surfer.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin was trying to kill Thor when Hela was in control of him iirc and it didn't kill him so your theories are contradicted on panel when he actually wanted to kill him and failed to do so. granted Thor fled like a coward but that's besides the point.

Was there supposed to be a point in that gibberish? Odin failed to kill Thor with multiple blasts. Cool. So I guess merciless Celestials failing to kill Thor with multiple blasts at a time they were considered above beings like Galactus somehow speaks ill of them too?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree. I think him easily owning Bill is proof of this.

Proof of what? You haven't shown a single shred of proof that Surfer is anything more than a gnat to Odin.

Do you not understand that Surfer could be twice as powerful as Bill and he still would be insignificant to Odin?

Originally posted by quanchi112
That Surfer survived something with this much power to take out two beings far more powerful than Odin by himself. You gave him a team against a character who needs to rest when he uses too much power. It's unfair for Odin. I mean Odin hasn't even been able to affect a Celestial with two other skyfathers amping his blast and despite amping himself with the uni mind, the souls of asgard save Thor, and the Destroyer armor he was still nothing to them. Odin's a skyfather but a joke to the upper powers of the universe with prep and with a huge amp. Surfer took two out on his own on the fly and still survived. Odin was easily bested. Food for thought.

😂

The amount of leaps in logic you do is amazing. I'm really tempted to just stop.

What does Surfer taking out the two Primordial Gods using the Crunch prove anything about his capabilities against Odin? Through luck, the battle took place near the Crunch, and he directed the energies to consume the two Primordial Gods. So what? That proves nothing as to his what he'd be capable of doing to Odin on his own. The feat is meaningless here.

Lmao at you thinking this battle would require Odin to go into the Odin Sleep.

You're low balling is meaningless.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah, Thor isn't durable like the Surfer even preupgrade. Like I said impressive Galactus with surviving taking two of these characters out is amazing.

Untrue. Amazing in your eyes. Unfortunately it's still useless.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Another insult when I simply disagree with you. Imo insulting someone simply for disagreeing with you within a thread that hasn't been closed for spite is getting emotional.

You're dense Quan. I'm sorry if you feel insulted. It's just a simply observation that most people have come to realize is true. It's not emotional. I don't give enough a shit to have any emotions over this.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I stand by my words whereas you don't. You just make random unsupported statements like he oneshots the Surfer when he's obviously better than he ever was which you are basing ythis off of a fight that happened like 20 years ago.

What am I doing right now? Lulz.

😂 Suddenly the age of the fight matters? You of all people love referring to Blood and Thunder to back up your opinions (You fail of course) like it's the damn bible.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Things change go with the times not against them.

🙂

Unfortunately not all things change. Take yourself for example.

Wasn't Surfer rocked by Skuttlebutt's artillery? The same artillery that Thor shrugged off in the past?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wasn't Surfer rocked by Skuttlebutt's artillery? The same artillery that Thor shrugged off in the past?

Thor, SS, BRB hell even Superman are all on the same level well at least close enough were no one has an edge over the other in terms of
strength Dura,etc.. Their Given Powersets give them only slight adtvanges over their peers.

As for SS powerup it was not a powerup at all Galactus more or less changed SS personilty to make him much less of a wuss and more agressive.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Yes sure a BRB recovered in almust the same amount of panels after surfer WWE cheap shot with the baord "although proves Surfer can think out side of the box" Anyoen before that BRb was matching SS speed and countering every blast by SS not too mention that BRB H2H easily tossed SS aside.

Thor, SS, BRB hell even Superman are all on the same level well at least close enough were no one has an edge over the other in terms of
strength Dura,etc.. Their Given Powersets give them only slight adtvanges over their peers.

As for SS powerup it was not a powerup at all Galactus more or less changed SS personilty to make him much less of a wuss and more agressive.

Out of the buch that you've named (heralds)... going by feats, thor is more powerful imo.

Quan's stupid.Odin stomps.He one shots high heralds with ease 😐. Read B&T.

Odin stomps team. Upgraded Surfer is gonna beat Odin? Hahahaha. Oh Quanchi, you troll.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Where during that fight did he prove his far more durable than before? He took two hits from Bill, was knocked off his board, and then got up. If you think that makes him far more durable than he was before Annihilation, you're really underestimating Surfer.

Was there supposed to be a point in that gibberish? Odin failed to kill Thor with multiple blasts. Cool. So I guess merciless Celestials failing to kill Thor with multiple blasts at a time they were considered above beings like Galactus somehow speaks ill of them too?

Proof of what? You haven't shown a single shred of proof that Surfer is anything more than a gnat to Odin.

Do you not understand that Surfer could be twice as powerful as Bill and he still would be insignificant to Odin?

😂

The amount of leaps in logic you do is amazing. I'm really tempted to just stop.

What does Surfer taking out the two Primordial Gods using the Crunch prove anything about his capabilities against Odin? Through luck, the battle took place near the Crunch, and he directed the energies to consume the two Primordial Gods. So what? That proves nothing as to his what he'd be capable of doing to Odin on his own. The feat is meaningless here.

Lmao at you thinking this battle would require Odin to go into the Odin Sleep.

You're low balling is meaningless.

Untrue. Amazing in your eyes. Unfortunately it's still useless.

You're dense Quan. I'm sorry if you feel insulted. It's just a simply observation that most people have come to realize is true. It's not emotional. I don't give enough a shit to have any emotions over this.

What am I doing right now? Lulz.

😂 Suddenly the age of the fight matters? You of all people love referring to Blood and Thunder to back up your opinions (You fail of course) like it's the damn bible.

Unfortunately not all things change. Take yourself for example.

Celestials spared Thor in the end. In the end his power is nothing compared to them. Odin hit Thor trying to kill him yet he live further proving you exaggerate odin to celestial level status.

Galactus level beings. He used energy to destroy those two and stil survived so only logically he can tank far less energy and take Odin on by himself let alone with an entire team who wants odin blood.

Yes, I do but do you not understand surviving power enough to defeat two beings who rival Galactus means he can survive power far less wielded by Odin. Gotcha, sport.

Wrong-Oooooooooo.

He showed he can survive channeling energy to take out two beings far greater than old man odin. Logically this means if this didn't instantly kill him then he can logically survive far less power from odin since the Galactus level beings didn't survive this kind of power. Logically you don't have one leg to stand up on in this debate.

Not lowballing I am stating a fact when Odin uses significant energy he needs to sleep. This is a fact.

It isn't useless it's a durability showing that makes it unfair for even odin to compare here with the likes of this feat. upgrade on top of the team means Odin loses. Don't take it personal it's not like this team is matched up against Thanos where he'd even the odds.

You're angry someone disagrees with your ridiculous notions Odin stomps. Your entire posts have nothing of substance just insults right out of the gate condemning anyone who sides with the team. Explain why you think he can oneshot this newer Surfer with scans or at least allude to why you believe this way.

The age of the fight certainly matters when surfer has been upgraded since 2007. LOL.

I have changed into one of this site's great debaters into the undisputed champion. You could learn a lot from me.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Quan's stupid.Odin stomps.He one shots high heralds with ease 😐. Read B&T.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Odin stomps team. Upgraded Surfer is gonna beat Odin? Hahahaha. Oh Quanchi, you troll.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Blood and thunder doesn't apply to current Surfer.

I never once stated he can solo Odin.

If you don't think he solos how do you think they win?Thanos was unable to hurt Odin.None of these people are doing any damage whatsoever to Thanos.