Originally posted by janus77😂
until the battle happens, I wouldn't use that as a feat.I think current Hulk's base level is top-end Trans, where he goes from there (with his usual amping) is anybody's guess.
I wouldn't be surprised if Marvel came back to The Beyonder's evaluation of his powers, to the oft stated "infinite" energies at his disposal and indeed did reveal him to be a fundamental force of the universe (destructive? chaotic?)... at the same time I wouldn't be surprised if he went all out fighting curent Hercules to a stalemate.
Tyrant is clearly clearly above the trans tier and even the skyfather tier imo. You can claim PIS all you want but the reality is… his showings put him way way beyond the Trans tier. Thanos is clearly a skyfather… even if low skyfather…His fights with Odin, Tyrant & The Maker show this to be true. One shotting killing heralds like Warlock, Drax and Phyla further prove this point. They were just KO'd they were outright killed.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiTyrant is difficult because for some reason even DP he was taking it to Galactus.
Tyrant is clearly clearly above the trans tier and even the skyfather tier imo. You can claim PIS all you want but the reality is… his showings put him way way beyond the Trans tier. Thanos is clearly a skyfather… even if low skyfather…His fights with Odin, Tyrant & The Maker show this to be true. One shotting killing heralds like Warlock, Drax and Phyla further prove this point. They were just KO'd they were outright killed.
Thanos IMO is not Skyfather he is something below, either top trans or something between trans and Skyfather. I can see what you mean about sheer power, smashing heralds etc putting him up there, but I don't think it's enough. He has the durability to stand up to Skyfathers for a little while before suffering damage, but he couldn't hurt Odin at all while real Skyfathers can (and Odin was only using a small amount of the powers he has demonstrated elsewhere).
Just my own view, but to me a Skyfather has more than just Thanos level toughness and blasting power. I think Skyfathers are the kind of guys that can a lot of crazy stuff with a sort of wave of their hand - stopping or altering time, teleporting vast numbers of people, or mindwiping them all or putting them in stasis, creating magical weapons out of nothing and personally imbuing them with vast power, growing to vast size etc - mythical stuff. Odin used to do that sort of thing while Thanos just can't. They are a different level of being. Maybe that's more a traditional view but I like it. To me Thanos would be a pretty low end poor man's Skyfather.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Tyrant is clearly clearly above the trans tier and even the skyfather tier imo.
I disagree with the first part. The second is just silly.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You can claim PIS all you want but the reality is… his showings put him way way beyond the Trans tier.
What do people claim is PIS? His showings against Galactus? IIRC, he did only as well as he did because of his ability to absorb Galactus' energy didn't he?
Mephisto outright stalemated Galactus in his realm, and Zeus recently punked Galactus (Albeit he was amped to a degree). Doing well against Galactus, does not place one above Skyfathers in my opinion.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Thanos is clearly a skyfather… even if low skyfather…His fights with Odin, Tyrant & The Maker show this to be true.
I would point out that doing well against a character of a certain tier does not in of itself place one in said tier but whatever.
I personally think that Thanos is a Trans level character. Maybe a low level Skyfather on one of his better days. Kind of how I think any of the elite High Heralds can have an argument made for them being a Trans.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
One shotting killing heralds like Warlock, Drax and Phyla further prove this point. They were just KO'd they were outright killed.
What are you referring to?
That depends on where one views Galactus in terms of power.
I've always held the position that the gap between Skyfathers and Galactus isn't anywhere near as large as some people pretend.
If all it takes is a Skyfather a bit more powerful than your average All-Father to punk Galactus, then the gap is basically non existent.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I disagree with the first part. The second is just silly.What do people claim is PIS? His showings against Galactus? IIRC, he did only as well as he did because of his ability to absorb Galactus' energy didn't he?
Mephisto outright stalemated Galactus in his realm, and Zeus recently punked Galactus (Albeit he was amped to a degree). Doing well against Galactus, does not place one above Skyfathers in my opinion.
I would point out that doing well against a character of a certain tier does not in of itself place one in said tier but whatever.
I personally think that Thanos is a Trans level character. Maybe a low level Skyfather on one of his better days. Kind of how I think any of the elite High Heralds can have an argument made for them being a Trans.
What are you referring to?
Well I guess you don't remember correctly then Rage... Galactus usually talks to be in a condescending manner.. that is Big G.. He didn't talk about Tyrant or to Tyrant in such a way. He also rarely EVER feeds before an encounter and prep, yet he did exactly that against Tyrant. He knew the threat Tyrant posed. HE NEVER ONCE mentioned it was because Tyrant can absorb his bio energy as that isn't a big deal. Galactus absorbs the same Biosphere as Tyrant so that wasn't any advantage for Tyrant.. they both do that.
More importantly he let Tyrant TAKE his herald from him because he FEARED GALAXIES being destroyed as collateral damage of their encounter. Not because he can absorb biosphere but because of the damage their fight would cause. So it's clear by Galactus words and actions how powerful Tyrant was.
Not to mention his showing against a supposed amp Thanos.. IF thanos is for sure Trans tier.. and many believe Skyfather level.. plus amped... Yet Tyrant punked Thanos and MADE HIM LEAVE FOR FEAR OF DYING. Against Odin he HAD NO FEAR of dying and was down to continue to fight even after he felt his power. He talked to Odin as if he was his equal and was going to win.. .not close to how he acted with Tyrant. Thanos clearly viewed Tyrant as superior to Odin having felt power fo their power.
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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Well I guess you don't remember correctly then Rage... Galactus usually talks to be in a condescending manner.. that is Big G.. He didn't talk about Tyrant or to Tyrant in such a way. He also rarely EVER feeds before an encounter and prep, yet he did exactly that against Tyrant. He knew the threat Tyrant posed. HE NEVER ONCE mentioned it was because Tyrant can absorb his bio energy as that isn't a big deal. Galactus absorbs the same Biosphere as Tyrant so that wasn't any advantage for Tyrant.. they both do that.More importantly he let Tyrant TAKE his herald from him because he FEARED GALAXIES being destroyed as collateral damage of their encounter. Not because he can absorb biosphere but because of the damage their fight would cause. So it's clear by Galactus words and actions how powerful Tyrant was.
I guess I don't. I don't even remember Galactus prepping.
I clearly need to reread the story because I can't take your word on anything at this point. But I swear to god, I better not reread this shit only to discover this one of those times where you own a special edition.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Not to mention his showing against a supposed amp Thanos.. IF thanos is for sure Trans tier.. and many believe Skyfather level.. plus amped... Yet Tyrant punked Thanos and MADE HIM LEAVE FOR FEAR OF DYING. Against Odin he HAD NO FEAR of dying and was down to continue to fight even after he felt his power. He talked to Odin as if he was his equal and was going to win.. .not close to how he acted with Tyrant. Thanos clearly viewed Tyrant as superior to Odin having felt power fo their power.
Hold on, are you acknowledging Thanos' amp?
Thanos is most definitely Trans. Anyone saying his below aren't honest.
I personally don't remember Thanos teleporting out because he was afraid of dying but because he got what he wanted and proved his worth or some other Stalrin like crap. But I'll take your word for it.
I honestly do not remember any sort of noticeable change of attitude between either scenes. I recall Thanos having his usual bravado against Tyrant and so on. I think he might have been talking big when they locked up arms.
That would make Thanos an even bigger idiot then I thought.