Wolverine vs DC earth

Wolverine has to conquer DC Earth. Wolverine has Silver Surfer's powers and is just as skilled, he has no HF, claws or adamantuim. He assembles a team:

Hank Pym
Ghost
Punisher
The Hand (thats right the whole organisation)
Daken

The team land on DC earth and are trusted by the heroic community, after this they get 6 months to set a plan in motion. During this time nobody will be able to suspect they are planning anything but after the 6 months are up you have to decide what will happen.

No in-fighting. This is not a straight forward battle and various tactics will be used eg bribing, murder, infiltration making allies etc.

LOBO with the Red Ring puts em all down.

They lose. They just don't have what it takes to beat the entire earth. Even the JLA would take a lot out of them.

Originally posted by Deadline
Wolverine has to conquer DC Earth. Wolverine has Silver Surfer's powers and is just as skilled, he has no HF, claws or adamantuim.

I don't think you've really thought this through. For starters Wolverine with SS's powers would wipe the floor with Superman and a shitload of heroes. You're also forgetting that the heroic community trust them and that means it will be easy to get info and tech. They can also make allies.

The JLA would get stomped.

Originally posted by Deadline
I don't think you've really thought this through. For starters Wolverine with SS's powers would wipe the floor with Superman and a shitload of heroes. You're also forgetting that the heroic community trust them and that means it will be easy to get info and tech. They can also make allies.

The JLA would get stomped.

No, he wouldn't.

Plus, Batman would NEVER trust him.

Originally posted by -Pr-
No, he wouldn't.

He most likely would. The problem with Silver Surfer is he holds back alot. Wolverine doesn't.

Maybe he wouldn't wipe the floor but hes not winning the majority.

Originally posted by -Pr-

Plus, Batman would NEVER trust him.

Actually you're right but I don't have time to put that much detail the openign thread (people switch off with too much info). Batman at the very least won't be able to spy on them or do anything to them when they initially arrive or for 6 months. While the team can spy on him and gather tech and information.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
So it's not Wolverine, or is it because certain people are putting Wolverine on the strategic throne again?

Not sure what you mean but one point of the thread is to highlight his intellect.

Originally posted by Deadline
He most likely would. The problem with Silver Surfer is he holds back alot. Wolverine doesn't.

Maybe he wouldn't wipe the floor but hes not winning the majority.

Actually you're right but I don't have time to put that much detail the openign thread (people switch off with too much info). Batman at the very least won't be able to spy on them or do anything to them when they initially arrive or for 6 months. While the team can spy on him and gather tech and information.

Not sure what you mean but one point of the thread is to highlight his intellect.

that's not proof. besides, you said "as skilled", not more skilled. the JLA are more than capable of handling Surfer, and even Superman would give him trouble.

yes, because spying on batman sure is easy. hell, he'd probably feed them false info half the time.

facepalm

Originally posted by illadelph12
facepalm

Originally posted by -Pr-
that's not proof.

Superman isn't beating a guy who has FTL reflexes, is a much better fighter, just as durable and can manipulate energy to weaken him.

Originally posted by -Pr-
besides, you said "as skilled", not more skilled.

You missed the point. Silver Surfer holds back, Wolverine won't mess around and would use tactics that SS would refrain from using. He doesn't need to be more skilled.

Originally posted by -Pr-

yes, because spying on batman sure is easy. hell, he'd probably feed them false info half the time.

Batman isn't smarter than Wolverine, Hank Pym, Ghost and Punisher. Wolverine himself is an expert in espionage and deception and has more experince than Batman. Batman isn't tricking them.

You're also assuming the team will trust Batman, they won't.

Originally posted by -Pr-
the JLA are more than capable of handling Surfer, and even Superman would give him trouble.

They are not taking the JLA on in a battle this is 'guerilla warfare'.

Originally posted by Deadline
This is not a straight forward battle and various tactics will be used eg bribing, murder, infiltration making allies etc.

Originally posted by Deadline
Batman isn't smarter than Wolverine, Hank Pym, Ghost and Punisher

Only because Hank Pym is on the list, the other three are morons in comparison.

Originally posted by Deadline
Superman isn't beating a guy who has FTL reflexes, is a much better fighter, just as durable and can manipulate energy to weaken him.

You missed the point. Silver Surfer holds back, Wolverine won't mess around and would use tactics that SS would refrain from using. He doesn't need to be more skilled.

Batman isn't smarter than Wolverine, Hank Pym, Ghost and Punisher. Wolverine himself is an expert in espionage and deception and has more experince than Batman. Batman isn't tricking them.

You're also assuming the team will trust Batman, they won't.

They are not taking the JLA on in a battle this is 'guerilla warfare'.

...i'm going to assume all that was sarcasm.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Only because Hank Pym is on the list, the other three are morons in comparison.

Hank 'Gawd' Pym tells Surferine to sit down and solos the task.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Only because Hank Pym is on the list, the other three are morons in comparison.

Originally posted by -Pr-
...i'm going to assume all that was sarcasm.

You are dodging points again becuas you think your opinion is fact and you don't need to elaborate.

I mean for starters you seem to be implying Batman > Hank Pym + Wolverine + Punisher + Ghost but you feel you don't need to explain yourself.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Only because Hank Pym is on the list, the other three are morons in comparison.

Absolutely. Ghost is a moron a guy whose tech specialises in infiltration and was easily able to break into Iron Mans vault, he's clearly moron.

Wolverine had the whole superhuman community shitting their pants in EOTS and didn't have the back up resources he has now. Punisher tactics in some areas are superior to Caps read Blood and Glory

You obvoulsy don't know what you're talking about.

I know that Hank Pym is far smarter than all three of them.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I know that Hank Pym is far smarter than all three of them.

Scientifically, yes.

Originally posted by Deadline
Scientifically, yes.