I'm not getting into the Ingrid debate, too vage, too many variables, not enough solid meat for facts.
As for this match, I would still side with Pyron over Bison. Pyrin is still physically much stronger, and his warp is STILL much faster. Movement speed is still faster, his style is far too unorthodox for Bison to handle. It it came down to who would do the most damage per hit' thats still in Pyrons court, mini supernovas via Cosmo Disruption far outdoes the Psycho Break Smasher.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I'm not getting into the Ingrid debate, too vage, too many variables, not enough solid meat for facts.
Oh yes there is. There is even official art of Ingrid soloing the SF cast. She may not B canon 2 the story but Ingrid is a very strong character that can't B overlooked.
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Oh yes there is. There is even official art of Ingrid soloing the SF cast. She may not B canon 2 the story but Ingrid is a very strong character that can't B overlooked.
Thats precisely what I'm talking about dude, she is far too vague to be considered canon to the story, we have not one solid objective feat to her name, we have nothing to analyse, we simply know that she "Did' defeat the cast... somehow.
Unless you can give me something measurable, what do you expect us to do? simply say that she soloed the cast without stating how?
No, what I said came right from the game. Has any1 but me ever played A3 Max? Everything I stated, she actually did do, N that very short time N A3 Max which is Y she is so ridiculous. Wiki wont tell the hole story and is often wrong. Sumtimes U have 2 really play the games. No End hates her and even he can agree that she is very strong. What have I posted about her, that didn't actually happen?
Originally posted by No End N SiteYes, but is he limiting himself tactically as well as destructively?
Idk that, I just assume that it's the Pyron that fought Demitri.If Pyron his allowin' himself to be tangible, enough city bustin', soul rendering Psycho Blasts should do him in. A Shin Psycho Abortion should do it. And the fact that his teleport spam is on Pyron's level on Pyron's level means he should be able to keep up with Pyron.
But Pyron can dish out much more damage than Pyron, and unlike Demitri, IIRC Bison cannot absorb him. Tangible he may be, he can still shift and reform his body at will.
Originally posted by No End N SiteAnak is pretty hax, IIRC didn't he like pull his entire country into an alternate dimension he made for them? Or something, I forget the specifics.
No, cuz Pyron, Jedah, Morri and Belial have yet to be shown at full power and lulz, Anak would turn her into a blow up doll and do nasty ass things to her with his old mummy dick..
I don't hate Ingrid at all...
but all I learned from here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALVdx8ihBQc
is about how she defeat M bison and fighters from her own verse.
And all she did is killing M Bison, defeat ryu and rose, but Pyron in the Darkstalker's OVA obliterates cities.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Yes, but is he limiting himself tactically as well as destructively?But Pyron can dish out much more damage than Pyron, and unlike Demitri, IIRC Bison cannot absorb him. Tangible he may be, he can still shift and reform his body at will.
Anak is pretty hax, IIRC didn't he like pull his entire country into an alternate dimension he made for them? Or something, I forget the specifics.
Pyron's in it for kicks, I don't think he cares if he loses. The thing is, Bison is absolutely immortal, unless his soul can be damaged directly. Being able to dish out more damge wont really help. I think Bison can eventually KO a limited Pyron, maybe not kill, but he could KO'im.
And Anak created a pocket world where he sent Egypt. The most broken thing about him is Pharaoh Magic, tho. He's still relatively weak, he just has some wonky ass powers for the tier he's placed in.
Originally posted by Insomnia1234
I don't hate Ingrid at all...
but all I learned from here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALVdx8ihBQc
is about how she defeat M bison and fighters from her own verse.And all she did is killing M Bison, defeat ryu and rose, but Pyron in the Darkstalker's OVA obliterates cities.
She is stated to have come from beyond the stars and flew all the way to Earth in, like, minutes. She killed Bison by makin'im self destruct by turnin' his power against him. She easily lifted the SNH from Ryu. Roses psychic powers had no effect on her. It's alot to go into, but it's all there.
She also beat Pyron in CFJ, which appears to also be used to unveil secrets about her lame as character.
Originally posted by No End N SiteWell, the closest Pyron has gotten to outright soul manipulation was when he separated Bishamon from his armor with his cosmic energies. Though you bring up a good point, even if Bison cannot be killed, who is to say he cannot be KOed?
Pyron's in it for kicks, I don't think he cares if he loses. The thing is, Bison is absolutely immortal, unless his soul can be damaged directly. Being able to dish out more damge wont really help. I think Bison can eventually KO a limited Pyron, maybe not kill, but he could KO'im.And Anak created a pocket world where he sent Egypt. The most broken thing about him is Pharaoh Magic, tho. He's still relatively weak, he just has some wonky ass powers for the tier he's placed in.
Mind explaining to me exactly what Pharaoh magic does? Am curious.
Originally posted by No End N Site
Pyron's in it for kicks, I don't think he cares if he loses. The thing is, Bison is absolutely immortal, unless his soul can be damaged directly. Being able to dish out more damge wont really help. I think Bison can eventually KO a limited Pyron, maybe not kill, but he could KO'im.And Anak created a pocket world where he sent Egypt. The most broken thing about him is Pharaoh Magic, tho. He's still relatively weak, he just has some wonky ass powers for the tier he's placed in.
But you can still destroy Bison's body, and I think Pyron can handle that pretty easy.
I have a question, why does everyone think that Bison is simply creating new bodies when he resurrects? I beleive that we've seen through most of the Alpha 3 endings that he simply stands back up after being defeated.
However, him reviving after exploding is simply not possible, Bison didn't actually have any clones ready by this stage, the only viables where Cammy, and Rose, and Rose only because they shared a soul connection.