Originally posted by PlacidityRange. Really? Dooku is one of the most powerful Force users in the series, not some random Padawan, he could do it from the other side of the mansion.
Theres the matter of range, so Dooku can't be too far away when he does it. This increases the risk of him getting shot.If Seamus and V are smart they would fight from cover, again making it harder for Dooku to do what you said. If Dooku exposes himself to force own them, he again might get shot.
I'm not sure about the force hold, I only recall Force Choke being used, which still allows the enemy to return fire.
Crushing their skulls? Yea, if he gets the chance, which I guess he eventually will. All he has to do is stay behind cover until Seamus/V get bored and come out to start something.
Um, no. You do not need line of sight to use the Force, Dooku would be able to sense them. Hell, Vader in one of the movies (I have trouble recalling which one) used Force Choke on an officer I think in the Death Star, and they were in totally different places in the ship, with Vader only seeing him on a screen. Or, alternatively, he could easily annihilate their cover with the force.
He could literally crush their windpipes, beheading them if he wants to. Alternatively, he could throw his saber at them, which would go through whatever cover they have, impaling one of them, and then he could bring it back.
These are not Jedi who can resist the powers of the Force. They will be helpless before it.
Alternatively, Dooku could just bring the whole damn mansion down, crushing everyone but himself and Wesley.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Range. Really? Dooku is one of the most powerful Force users in the series, not some random Padawan, he could do it from the other side of the mansion.Um, no. You do not need line of sight to use the Force, Dooku would be able to sense them. Hell, Vader in one of the movies (I have trouble recalling which one) used Force Choke on an officer I think in the Death Star, and they were in totally different places in the ship, with Vader only seeing him on a screen. Or, alternatively, he could easily annihilate their cover with the force.
He could literally crush their windpipes, beheading them if he wants to. Alternatively, he could throw his saber at them, which would go through whatever cover they have, impaling one of them, and then he could bring it back.
These are not Jedi who can resist the powers of the Force. They will be helpless before it.
Alternatively, Dooku could just bring the whole damn mansion down, crushing everyone but himself and Wesley.
* I don't remember seeing Dooku using force powers from that far, but you are welcome to remind me of his feats.
* Darth Vader =/= Count Dooku
And the rest of your points, I agree with, I've made many of them myself. Its just that I've considered the fact that if he exposes himself (which he may need to for some of his potential attacks), he will get shot.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I never liked the line of thought that says "If we only saw him use X ability at X range/magnitude, then obviously he could never go any further."
Contrastingly, you must then like the line of thought that says, "If we only see him use X ability at X range/magnitude, then obviously he could go as far as I'd like to say he could go."?
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Originally posted by PlacidityI do so enjoy that one.
Contrastingly, you must then like the line of thought that says, "If we only see him use X ability at X range/magnitude, then obviously he could go as far as I'd like to say he could go."?😉
There isn't a happy middle ground for movie feats, too much of it is subject to opinions and feelings.
Originally posted by PlacidityWhile Vader is somewhat superior to Dooku in the Force, it is not that great a difference, this is a mansion, which does not approach the size of either the Death Star of a Star Destroyer (IIRC the feat in question was performed in one of those places).
* I don't remember seeing Dooku using force powers from that far, but you are welcome to remind me of his feats.* Darth Vader =/= Count Dooku
And the rest of your points, I agree with, I've made many of them myself. Its just that I've considered the fact that if he exposes himself (which he may need to for some of his potential attacks), he will get shot.
But mansion go down and boom. D:
If I were to take a stance, I'd give it to Preston and V.
Dooku's screen feats do not show the athleticism required to keep up with the other two in bladework, and while I do not believe that he would be unable to handle automatic fire, the combination of enemies would soon overwhelm the Count's precision.
Wesley is impressive in his assault, but his equipment does not seem to be as high a quality as that of his opponents. Pistol vs. automatic, knife vs. sword.
The most interesting matchup for me only involves bladework, and pits Wesley against V and Dooku against Preston, with teamwork as needed.
Originally posted by Zampanó
Dooku's screen feats do not show the athleticism required to keep up with the other two in bladework
He did a front flip in Ep III.
But no really, in terms of 'keeping up in bladework', he did defend well against Yoda, which would slaughter the others in a saber fight.
And um, if it did come down to a melee fight, he would just force own them.
Originally posted by Zampanó
Wesley is impressive in his assault, but his equipment does not seem to be as high a quality as that of his opponents. Pistol vs. automatic, knife vs. sword.
Actually, if you've seen the movie (lol), you'll know that he is most deadly with a pistol (aside from sniping, but thats debatable) because he can bend the bullets. Apart from curving bullets, the pistol also allows him greater mobility while still being a deadshot. Wesley has got to be one of the (if not THE) greatest marksman in film fiction.
You know what, they've actually shown to be able to hit targets afar without seeing them, so it kind of seals the deal for this debate. Neither V or Preston will see anyone before they receive a bullet in the head.