Originally posted by tideoftimeCarver's a genius, the man knows how to take all the attention in every thread, every time. Very few people know how to do that consistently.
Was that a joke, Carver?Pr is absolutely correct: *Diana* has comparable dodge/deflection feats to that -- and she's not *near* Wally's/Barry's level of "not getting hit" (when the latter two are keeping their wits about them and not jobbing).
I mean, the reference is ... *cute*... for lack of a better term... but I *really* hope you posted that for humorous reasons... otherwise you just discredited your perspective-opinion on this subject. Not saying that to be confrontational -- just saying...
Originally posted by carver9
That was childs play... I can do far better.
you keep saying that and saying that. i think i just don't want any more disappointments, tbh...
Originally posted by carver9
💃You know I don't start trouble and I think you kind of enjoy me owning pr daily like I have been doing for the past 4 years.
like you did when you showed vulcan travelling between galaxies in a couple of weeks?
like you did when you showed me that superman was slower than black adam?
like you did when you showed me Bill surviving a supernova casually?
Oh, wait...
Originally posted by -Pr-
you keep saying that and saying that. i think i just don't want any more disappointments, tbh...like you did when you showed vulcan travelling between galaxies in a couple of weeks?
like you did when you showed me that superman was slower than black adam?
like you did when you showed me Bill surviving a supernova casually?Oh, wait...
I never said that adam was faster than superman, I actually said the opposite. What I did do was show you a scan of a group stating that black adam was more powerful. You must forgot that I was one of the peeps that was voting for supes.
I showed you vulcan traveling through galaxys to prove that everyone and their grandmoma has flown through space at light speed and its irrelevant to use space travel as any type of indication that someone can fight at light speed.
Bill supernova? I already told you that I don't think that I was wrong about that, we just have 2 different opinions.
I'm about to show you some more stuff, one sec.
Originally posted by carver9
I never said that adam was faster than superman, I actually said the opposite. What I did do was show you a scan of a group stating that black adam was more powerful. You must forgot that I was one of the peeps that was voting for supes.I showed you vulcan traveling through galaxys to prove that everyone and their grandmoma has flown through space at light speed and its irrelevant to use space travel as any type of indication that someone can fight at light speed.
Bill supernova? I already told you that I don't think that I was wrong about that, we just have 2 different opinions.
I'm about to show you some more stuff, one sec.
my memory is better than yours it seems.
also, the scan was of an amped black adam. from a source that was hardly concrete.
except that he didn't, thereby nullifying your "proof". he needed the ship and the gate to travel further.
that's fine. your opinion is just wrong. biscuits
Originally posted by -Pr-
my memory is better than yours it seems.also, the scan was of an amped black adam. from a source that was hardly concrete.
except that he didn't, thereby nullifying your "proof". he needed the ship and the gate to travel further.
that's fine. your opinion is just wrong. biscuits
I agree with the memory thing ,to some extent". I just read a lot of comics and get things mixed up sometimes. I need to do some research first before posting comments... that's my problem.
The adam scan didn't happen during the time he was amped (to my knowledge... I could be wrong though).
Before vulcan even hit the gates he was traveling past planets like nothing. He was going light but he wasn't going fast enough to fly to the end of a galaxy in enough time to suffer from old age. He was thousands of light years from his target, he needed assistance.
Its 50/50 imo... one of us is wrong and some people actually agreed with my thought on the scan.
This shouldn't disappoint you...
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?xl=xl_blazer&v=lKJQ5RQBuDQ
Fast forward it to 3 min and 30 seconds.
Since we want to talk about blast, look at goku dodging blast so fast that it appears as if the blast are going through his body and he wasn't even turned around looking at them when they were shooting.
Fast forward the same scan to 7 min and 10 sec
Punches are going straight through his body as if he was a ghost.
Fast foward to 12 minutes and 20 sec
Some more super speed dodging but the thing about this is, they slowed the fight down so that we can see what was going. Look at 12 min and 30, they show their actual speed. Look at 12 min and 40 sec... you will see them again moving at tremendous speeds and again, he is doing the same dodging thing but he is doing it against two peeps with super speed. One of the guys is so fast that they can actually see the world as a statue... everything is still to him.
he was only on oolong island after being amped.
that's what i said. "past planets" isn't exactly super-fast, you know.
it wasn't nearly 50/50. we both know this.
your link isn't working for me.
edit: i just watched it.
now, i am not saying that's bad; not at all. but saying that someone like Superman, or even Flash (which you better not) has done on panel is borderline lunacy. Superman has shown more than once that he can vibrate through things will seeming to not even move from his standing position. that includes energy blasts.
moving faster than the eye can see? yep, he's done that too, more than once. even John Byrne Superman could move faster than the eye could track.
Originally posted by -Pr-
he was only on oolong island after being amped.that's what i said. "past planets" isn't exactly super-fast, you know.
it wasn't nearly 50/50. we both know this.
your link isn't working for me.
edit: i just watched it.
now, i am not saying that's bad; not at all. but saying that someone like Superman, or even Flash (which you better not) has done on panel is borderline lunacy. Superman has shown more than once that he can vibrate through things will seeming to not even move from his standing position. that includes energy blasts.
moving faster than the eye can see? yep, he's done that too, more than once. even John Byrne Superman could move faster than the eye could track.
You could be right about adam, I'm not doubting you.
"How" he was flying past planets proves that he was flying at or above "c". That was my entire argument. Vulcan isn't a light speedster just because he flew threw space at those speed. space flight is the best way to travel because there really isn't anything holding someones speed back. Numerous of characters has flown through space at "c" and half of them reflexes "suck" unless you want to say that despero is a light speedster as well.
I give up on the beta ray bill comment because him laying in the sun is a good enough feat for me.
Goku wasn't just moving faster than the human eye could see, he was moving faster than super human eyes could see. Super humans that has on panel showings of being able to see things moving at tremendous speeds. One of the guys has proven that he can see the world and people as statues and goku was even to fast for him to tag.
I agree, supes has showing of blitzing faster than humans eyes could see but super humans that can see at unbelievable speeds... naah.
By the way, that's one of the weakest and slowest versions of goku. He gets 50 times more powerful and faster by the end of a couple of episodes.
On the real though, I have never seen anyone fight like that and I am referring to EVERY mavel and dc character.
None of them have feats like that... none.
Originally posted by -Pr-
hey, i'm just looking out for your happiness...
😕
I give up... waving the flag in the air. I'm gone foreal this time and pr... you don't have to explain any of this to me, I don't mind being confused about this subject.
I am going to leave you all be for a couple of days until the "frieza vs thanos thread" is opened back up.