Darth Vader vs Sauron.

Started by Nephthys2 pages

Darth Vader vs Sauron.

Scenario 1: Vaders just cruising around in his TIE fighter being all pimp and shit when he senses an emanation in the Force. He checks it out and finds Sauron chillin' out post ass-raping the armies of middle earth like a badass mother****er.

They start just facing each other with standard equipment, no prep or knowledge of each other.

Scenario 2: Sauron gets 100 orcs at his disposal. They are all swordsman.

Scenario 3: Same as 2 only Sauron doesn't need the ring to survive.

Vader stompage, as far as I can see.... No way can Sauron cope with the Force and its TK attacks.

Vader TKs the Sword from saurons hand, and cuts his hand off with the sabre, ESB style. He removes the ring from the hand, and force TK's Sauron's fallen sword into Sauron's bottom until Sauron's bowels explode.

Sauron used a mace fyi. You think Vader's TK is that strong to rip Saurons weapon from his hand? He was casually swatting dozens of guys in platemail around like they were cheap hoes. Also, no knowledge of each other means Vader as no idea about the Ring.

Vader seemed pretty casual about the whole "ripping metal stuff off the wall". I think he could handle Sauron's mace.

But if Vader has no knowledge of him or his strength, I don't think he'll go for a kill shot right away. All Sauron has to do his Vader once and he'll be crushed.

Lack of foresight plus the Ring---Vader won't last.

Scenario one what exactly is standard equipment? Without his saber Sauron probably has a better chance, but I'd still lean towards Vader.
Scenario two I'd definitely give to Vader as well as scenario three. I just don't see what threat orcs will pose to vader and with his saber Sauron should be easy enough.

Standard Equipment for Vader: His lightsaber and suit.

Standard Equipment for Sauron: His mace, his armor and the One Ring.

If anyone can correct me on that or knows anything else those two carry on their person then feel free to do so and telll us. I just don't want anyone trying to suggest that Vader gets a Star Destroyer or anything silly like that.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Sauron used a mace fyi. You think Vader's TK is that strong to rip Saurons weapon from his hand? He was casually swatting dozens of guys in platemail around like they were cheap hoes. Also, no knowledge of each other means Vader as no idea about the Ring.

Yes. Fair enough on the mace.

Yeah If he utilises his top end Nooooooooooooooooooooo power.
It doesnt matter if the hand is off, though right?

Plus Saurons battling Vaderprecog here.

Reckon Vader could also force throw his sabre and decapitate Sauron, particularly once the hand and ring with it is cut off as per standard Skywalker de-arm the enemy tactics.

vader wins

Sauron in all three.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Standard Equipment for Sauron: His mace, his armor and the One Ring.

The question then is if we can consider the ring a part of Sauron's standard equipment, given the relative small amount of time he had it in the movie 😛

Sauron has telepathy but not on Vader's level. Besides the armor on him is ridiculous. The Orcs will be destroyed too.

Vader beats the shit out of Sauron.

He could crush his body like a grape.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Vader beats the shit out of Sauron.

He could crush his body like a grape.

Wishful thinking.

Well, all versus battles boil down to that. But backed by on screen evidence, the wishful thought about becomes accepted as likely.

Vader crushes things like grapes on screen, so I'd say Nemebro's pertty likely right.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wishful thinking.
Vader has crushed durable metals with the Force pretty easily.

Sauron had his fingers sliced off by a broken sword.

Broken sword<<<The Force or a lightsaber.

Vader throws objects at Sauron as shown from ESB, then either force crush as shown from ESB as well as ROTJ or Vader wins via decapitation

Originally posted by NemeBro
Vader has crushed durable metals with the Force pretty easily.

Sauron had his fingers sliced off by a broken sword.

Broken sword<<<The Force or a lightsaber.

Well this is a magical enemy here making it not the same thing.

The sword was very sharp though not comparable to a saber I will grant you that it was a lucky strike after he lowered hi sguard reaching down by crushing a sword by his leg alone.

Sauron kills him with the mace. Too powerful for anything vader can bring to the table.

Not when its been sliced through with a sabre its not.
Vader force crushes Saurons helmet. 🙂

(And his metal hat too.)

I just don't see Vader opening with a Force Crush, not if he knows nothing about Sauron or his powers. He has a tendency to go for the saber first.

If he doesn't know, then why wouldn't he play it safe and battle at range, using a fight finisher as the opening move...?

Why would he risk getting involved with a taller opponent with a reachy and hefty weapon..?