Originally posted by Starscream M
like he did thanos...in which he had to resort to gugnir?but keep going with this theoretical version of Odin of yours....who with a gesture will end superman and stop time while sipping asgardian mead
I am so goddamn tired of people judging Odin's capabilities based on how he fared against Thanos. People base their entire opinion regarding Odin revolving around that fight. It's so incredibly asinine. It's like judging Superman's capabilities based on how he did against Konvict. That's not even taking into account that Odin can get far more powerful. Rant over, moving on.
Odin while incredibly weakened and poisoned casually one shot Ulik. Heimdall with a portion of the Odin Power was no selling direct hits from Mjolnir and the like. Odin can amp his physical levels to far beyond Superman. He can do the same thing with Thanos. Even in the Thanos fight, he was no selling his attacks.
For the last time, he didn't have to resort to Gungnir. That's making it sound like he needed it. He doesn't. It does absolutely nothing that he can't do on his own. It doesn't even help him channel his power more effectively like the Scepter does. It just makes blasting people more convenient and has impeccable accuracy.
Theoretical? How the hell would you know? You don't read Thor. He can end Superman with a gesture. And he can stop time.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Isn't that from like a what if? Or at least some type of simulation program? I don't remember the exact source.Oh, and from reading the scans, I'd say Hal got Superman away before the detonation in an attempt to contain the blast.
Yes, its a cannon what if. Jor-el was using a computer similulation to decide where to send ka-el.
And its pretty clear that he tried to absorb the explosion w/body and was dicharged like a bullet.
So basically what we have here is Jor-el super computer describing how durable supes would be.
Originally posted by paisapower
Yes, its a cannon what if. Jor-el was using a computer similulation to decide where to send ka-el.And its pretty clear that he tried to absorb the explosion w/body and was dicharged like a bullet.
So basically what we have here is Jor-el super computer describing how durable supes would be.
Yea, that's about right. Computer simulation = Not conclusive. Just saying.
Oh I see. I skimmed through the scans, and I mistook his legs for Jordan. So what type of explosion is it? It sure as hell isn't the instantaneous kind from what I'm seeing.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yea, that's about right. Computer simulation = Not conclusive. Just saying.Oh I see. I skimmed through the scans, and I mistook his legs for Jordan. So what type of explosion is it? It sure as hell isn't the instantaneous kind from what I'm seeing.
Anti-matter explosion.
As for it being conclusive evidence, I think a super computer from a super advanced race with its greatest scientest at the controls should be given some merit
Originally posted by paisapower
Anti-matter explosion.
As for it being conclusive evidence, I think a super computer from a super advanced race with its greatest scientest at the controls should be given some merit
I know it was Anti-Matter, but how did the explosion work? It's obviously not instantaneous here. It seems to be expanding at some sort of rate. Perhaps the explosion released Anti-Matter, which began to gradually eat away at the surrounding Universe? That could easily mean that Superman didn't tank anywhere near the amount of power needed to destroy half a Universe.
It might have some merit but *points above*.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I know it was Anti-Matter, but how did the explosion work? It's obviously not instantaneous here. It seems to be expanding at some sort of rate. Perhaps the explosion released Anti-Matter, which began to gradually eat away at the surrounding Universe? That could easily mean that Superman didn't tank anywhere near the amount of power needed to destroy half a Universe.It might have some merit but *points above*.
It seems to be an explosion like the one that Prime took that destroyed that universe. It also expanded.(1/2 the potantcy of course)
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusright...when did he ever stop time in a fight?
He can end Superman with a gesture. And he can stop time.
I hope you realize that not everything you can do is also a viable battle tactic.
ie surfer has sped up time to incredible degrees before....but nobody is gonna say he's going to age his opponent to death.
Originally posted by Starscream M
right...when did he ever stop time in a fight?I hope you realize that not everything you can do is also a viable battle tactic.
ie surfer has sped up time to incredible degrees before....but nobody is gonna say he's going to age his opponent to death.
Are you claiming that Superman wins?
Originally posted by paisapower
It seems to be an explosion like the one that Prime took that destroyed that universe. It also expanded.(1/2 the potantcy of course)
The explosion that Prime created when he busted open Monarch was nigh instantaneous. This doesn't seem to be the case. Using Superman as a basis for a scale, the explosion isn't that large, and Hal/Clark were conversing on the precipice of the explosion.
Originally posted by zopzop
Good grief. To all my DC lovin' friends -Superman with :
Green Lantern ring
Thorbuster Armor
Wonder Woman full gear
Martian Manhunter
Batman with time to plan
Larfleeze (or what ever his name is)
Darkseidvs
Odin
Odin still wins with little/moderate difficulty.
Originally posted by Silent Masterit's hard to say as we're introducing two variables...ie GLring, and Thorbuster armor
Are you claiming that Superman wins?
so this isn't just 'superman'
second, putting the characters in character, they're likely to engage in a physical rumble...and superman has fared well in that arena
while I'm not sure who wins....I can definitively say that this will NOT be a stomp