Thor + Beta Ray Bill vs Thanos

Started by TheLordofMurder5 pages

Thanos never two shot Thor; he stunned him and Thor was back on a feet a few panels later...

The fact of the matter is that during Blood and Thunder, the writters pointed out every single instance in which Thor was tappning into the gem...its all there in Blood and Thunder.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thanos never two shot Thor; he stunned him and Thor was back on a feet a few panels later...

The fact of the matter is that during Blood and Thunder, the writters pointed out every single instance in which Thor was tappning into the gem...its all there in Blood and Thunder.

No. They didn't. Just because it doesn't say that they do it doesn't mean they don't. I mean thor should not be able to wreck the IW.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No. They didn't. Just because it doesn't say that they do it doesn't mean they don't. I mean thor should not be able to wreck the IW.

Do you have any proof that Thor was tapping into the power gem against Thanos? LoL...

Also, Thor should be able to wreck the IW; he is more powerful than any of them and he wasnt holding back...

And other than Drax, none of them have the durability to stand against him for any siginifcant period of time...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Do you have any proof that Thor was tapping into the power gem against Thanos? LoL...

Also, Thor should be able to wreck the IW; he is more powerful than any of them and he wasnt holding back...

And other than Drax, none of them have the durability to stand against him for any siginifcant period of time...

Do you have any proof to the contrary? Your the one making the claim. Back it up.

No hes not 😐. Dumb Drax alone should have been able to beat him. Add the power gem, Gamora, Adam, and Moondragon and they should have won very easily.

And Maxam. And possibly Adam.

They should have wrecked him.

My proof is that it was never stated on panel that Thor was tapping into the gem; you said I was wrong...

So since it was never stated on panel (and its been stated on panel in previous issues of Blood and Thunder when Thor tapped into it), I have satisfied my arguement...now its time for you to provide proof that I am wrong and that Thor was tapping into the gem.

Thor made Drax wretch up the gem...have you forgetten this? No, you didnt forget; you never read Blood and Thunder so you didnt know this...lol.

Drax has no prayer against Thor without the gem and Thor caused Drax to lose possession of it...

So, no...the IW should lose to Thor in that situation (with Thor being insane of course) every single time...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
My proof is that it was never stated on panel that Thor was tapping into the gem; you said I was wrong...

So since it was never stated on panel (and its been stated on panel in previous issues of Blood and Thunder when Thor tapped into it), I have satisfied my arguement...now its time for you to provide proof that I am wrong and that Thor was tapping into the gem.

Thor made Drax wretch up the gem...have you forgetten this? No, you didnt forget; you never read Blood and Thunder so you didnt know this...lol.

Drax has no prayer against Thor without the gem and Thor caused Drax to lose possession of it...

So, no...the IW should lose to Thor in that situation (with Thor being insane of course) every single time...

So please prove he wasn't.

Except you have yet to prove he wasn't. Just because one time it states he was and nothing has changed since then it means he wasn't.

Nice attempt bashing. Thor shouldn't have been able to do this.

Yes he does. Dumb Drax should beat thor.Especially with the gem.

No they shouldn't. They should stomp him.

Reading isnt a strong point of yours is it? Maybe I should state it this way:

t-HO-r m4d3 dr4z wr37ch up 73h 63m. w!7h0u7 73h 63m, dr4X h45 0 ch4nc3 464!n57 7h0r...

Got it?

💃

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Reading isnt a strong point of yours is it? Maybe I should state it this way:

t-HO-r m4d3 dr4z wr37ch up 73h 63m. w!7h0u7 73h 63m, dr4X h45 0 ch4nc3 464!n57 7h0r...

Got it?

💃

Yes...he would have.

And how I understood that I have no idea in hell.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The U-Foes never beat Thor in Siege.

Prove that Thanos was still weakened and I'll concede.

Thor destroys his body, then teleports Thanos into a black hole where his torn apart forever and ever.

They had him at their mercy and he was rescued by a woman in a jeep. Not very impressive for the god of thunder. He was unable to return fire while osborne was just talking down to him on live tv.

It's more amusing to let you believe all his power returned.

Thor can't destroy Thanos' body the best he can do is bloody his nose with an amp but that was Thor with an amp and against a less durable Thanos.

Yeah, Thanos mauls them.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm having a debate with Quanchi. I'm aware of what was said and not said in the event.

His referring to Annihilation is he not? That seemed to be an isolated incident (The whole glowing thing and ripping through force fields).

Unless he enters that mode again, I do not believe his inhibiting Thanos in anyway.

That's trolling then if you were aware of asking for something you yourself already knew. Laughs.

Originally posted by King Castle
look i came in with a clear idea of who would win, Thanos.

if i were asked do these two have a legitimate chance of kicking his poop in, i would say yes...

aint nothin wrong with acknowledging the other side of the debate and being honest..

What exactly have people said that gave you the indication that they can beat Thanos. Which feats exactly?

dont feel like having to explain myself easy answer high end feats should be enough to do it while thanos gets moderate low showings

Originally posted by vince_slice
He is, but Drax is displayed in TI to still have the same imperative because he mentioned in TI how it's "engraved" into his soul, and it's also why Drax couldn't control or stop himself from attacking Thanos. This tells us that his anti-Thanos power's aren't in his control, and are automatic.

In Annihilation too Drax didn't turn on his "green glow" it just automatically turned on as soon as Thanos was near, and on top of that Drax couldn't control his behavior too. He attacked Thanos even knowing that Thanos was going to free Galactus. More proof his anti-Thanos powers are automatic.

*edit I just read TI #4 again and Mantis confirms that Drax's powers aren't under his concious control.

This is spot on. Not only do drax powers WORK AUTOMATICALLY and thus effect Thanos AUTOMATICALLY. Thanos was weakened throughout that ENTIRE arc. In the book AFTER drax had killed Thanos... They still referenced Thanos as continuing to get back is strength and still gaining power. That beyond a shadow of a doubt makes it clear that when drax hit Thanos with that Anti-Matter he was weakened.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
When Thor had the power gem during the Blood and Thunder arc, every single time he tapped into it subconsciously, it was directly stated on panel that he was doing so...

NOT ONCE was this stated when Thor took on Thanos when he had the power gem...not one single time.

Thus, unless someone has definitive evidence to the contrary, Thor did not tap into the power gem when fighting Thanos...

As for Thor using Soul Suck, its a forbidden thing to do; which is directly stated on panel in the issue of Thor where he kills Loki with it...so no, unless some extreme circumstance exists, he wont use it.

BUT, this is a forum fight and not a comicbook...no PIS here or compelling story to write...so with Thanos being one evil muthaf****R who is beyond redemption, there is no reason for Thor not to destroy Thanos in this fashion.

Again, I firmly believe that the duo has the means to defeat Thanos; especially without PIS being involved...

Blunder... don't start this again.

WITH the PG AND a NON HOLDING BACK THOR.. couldn't even ge the better of Thanos physically and was easily forceblocked. The same woudl happen here with ease as he doesn't have the PG nor is he in WM. If the OP wanted him in WM he would've made him in that mode. Since he didn't.. there is no "going into WM" for Thor. Even if he did, he would be dealt with.

Second, the soul suck wouldn't work and we've gone over this before many times. Adam Warlock has a better soul suck by far than Thor. Not only is that his schtick and special move but he's been backed by the soul gem before and believed IT WOULDN'T work on Thanos. If Warlock (who knows Thanos better than anyone) doesn't think his schtick attack which he knows very well will work.. what on God's Green Earth makes you believe Thor's will?

Originally posted by King Castle
dont feel like having to explain myself easy answer high end feats should be enough to do it while thanos gets moderate low showings

So none then? Comics makes this question VERY easy to answer. We see heroes win all the time and beat people they have no business beating. We see this happen with Thor, Surfer, Captain A., Spideman etc etc. Yet Marvel makes it clear over and over again, who is stronger, but NOT having Thanos lose to these same heroes. Marvel makes it clear that Thanos is just leagues above any high herald and multiple high heralds. So I'm really confused on how you believe the team wins.

b/c i am willing to accept characters make mistakes in battles even in forums due to cis...

So the same could apply to thanos as well then right? So in Thanos weakest form to date.. he could've killed Thor if he kept on firing, once he two shot him to his knees and had him dazed and unable to respond?

you do realize i am giving the majority win to thanos, right?

Then you would be correct 😉