Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Except the longer the fight goes on, the worse it will get for Nightwing, as Tasky has managed to replicate fighting styles after fighting people for a few minutes.Dick's fighting style may be unorthodox, but Tasky has easily replicated fighting styles that will be a similar level of complexity (Cap, Iron Fist, Elektra many, many others) and has also managed to replicate a fighting style that should be physically impossible for a human being to use, and did it whilst fighting his superhuman opponent.
Taskmaster also have a huge amount of weaponry which he brings to fights, his loadout has contained- Sword (Longsword or Katana), Shield, various firearms, energy shaper, Bow with various trick arrows, etc.
There's also Taskmaster's ability to shift into double speed...
Ok so please if you don't mind, enlighten me. Who has Tasksmaster beaten 1 on 1 (not simply held his own) that deserves recognition and who has beaten him?
Because I'm getting the feeling that Taskmaster is unbeatable. Now as I state this I do not truly believe it. But that's the impression I'm getting from the thread.
Now, AlmightyKfish. Understand that I know taskmaster's abilities well and I've stated that he has the fighting skills of many great fighters from Marvel. But just because he can throw a kick or punch like Steve Rogers dosn't mean he hits just as hard.
You see I already accept the fact that Taskmaster could defeat Dick. But it's not clear and dry. I do not believe that Dick doesn't have what it takes to defeat him. No way. Taskmaster is not superhuman or has an healing factor nor is he just so damn good that someone like Nightwing has no chance at all. And yes he's very, very good, so is Nightwing.
Taskmaster's ability to shift into double speed is just as much of a disadvantage as it is an advantage. Because once again, he isn't superhuman and can't keep it up very long at all. And Nightwing has dodged multiple fast moving objects from different angles at the same time. He's even dodge objects thrown by people with superhuman reflexes.
And AlmightyKfish, I also wouldn't compare Nightwing's fighting style with any of the characters you stated in your post. The only one who is even similar to nightwing's style is Daredevil. Nightwing isn't easy to predict. It is his agility that keeps Slade on his toes.
Once again, Nightwing has hit Slade with a series of attacks in "Nightwing" #18, and got away. And it wasn't the first time he has escaped from Slade. Now I know that Dick never defeated Deathstroke. But he has held his own against him (Deathstroke is a meta-human after all). To think that he couldn't do so against Taskmaster is demeaning of Nightwing (I'm not saying you are).
Originally posted by Bentley
Tasky has every advantage in this combat.
Not true at all. Taskmaster has it over Dick in terms of how many fighting skills he has copied and utilizes and his ability to shift into double speed. Dick on the other hand is more resourceful and naturally agile. Dick is stronger and can be unpredictable. I also feel that Nightwing has better equipment (gas/flash pellets, wing-dings coated with poison, night/heat vision technology built in his mask etc).
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Ok so please if you don't mind, enlighten me. Who has Tasksmaster beaten 1 on 1 (not simply held his own) that deserves recognition and who has beaten him?Because I'm getting the feeling that Taskmaster is unbeatable. Now as I state this I do not truly believe it. But that's the impression I'm getting from the thread.
Now, AlmightyKfish. Understand that I know taskmaster's abilities well and I've stated that he has the fighting skills of many great fighters from Marvel. But just because he can throw a kick or punch like Steve Rogers dosn't mean he hits just as hard.
You see I already accept the fact that Taskmaster could defeat Dick. But it's not clear and dry. I do not believe that Dick doesn't have what it takes to defeat him. No way. Taskmaster is not superhuman or has an healing factor nor is he just so damn good that someone like Nightwing has no chance at all. And yes he's very, very good, so is Nightwing.
Taskmaster's ability to shift into double speed is just as much of a disadvantage as it is an advantage. Because once again, he isn't superhuman and can't keep it up very long at all. And Nightwing has dodged multiple fast moving objects from different angles at the same time. He's even dodge objects thrown by people with superhuman reflexes.
Well, most of Tasky's best feats are him vs a number of characters.
To list a few - Had the upper hand against Cap and Iron Man at the same time, has had the advantage against Iron Man 1v1, has had Cap at his mercy, has toyed with Daredevil, beat Elektra with his eyes closed by perfectly replicated DD's fighting style which threw her off her game, has taken out DP, taken out Spiderman, fought a bunch of avengers at the same time, has killed a guy who not only had spent years preparing to fight him, but also went through intense genetic modification and training in Shi'ar fighting, has blitzed and killed a guy fast enough to catch bullets fired from meters away...
There's pretty much every single showing in his respect thread in the forum if you want more detail, bar his latest mini which I need to add at some point.
Originally posted by MarvelknightNah, Dick isn't stronger.
Not true at all. Taskmaster has it over Dick in terms of how many fighting skills he has copied and utilizes and his ability to shift into double speed. Dick on the other hand is more resourceful and naturally agile. Dick is stronger and can be unpredictable. I also feel that Nightwing has better equipment (gas/flash pellets, wing-dings coated with poison, night/heat vision technology built in his mask etc).
He stomps though. sneer
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Well, most of Tasky's best feats are him vs a number of characters.
To list a few - Had the upper hand against Cap and Iron Man at the same time, has had the advantage against Iron Man 1v1, has had Cap at his mercy, has toyed with Daredevil, beat Elektra with his eyes closed by perfectly replicated DD's fighting style which threw her off her game, has taken out DP, taken out Spiderman, fought a bunch of avengers at the same time, has killed a guy who not only had spent years preparing to fight him, but also went through intense genetic modification and training in Shi'ar fighting, has blitzed and killed a guy fast enough to catch bullets fired from meters away...There's pretty much every single showing in his respect thread in the forum if you want more detail, bar his latest mini which I need to add at some point.
Cool. I checked his respect thread and I must say that I'm impressed. But Captain America could have done better than that. From him I expect more. Iron Man as well. But I can't take anything from Tasky. As I said before, Taskmaster can defeat Nightwing. I'm just debating that Dick can take him down as well. And more then 2/10.
I'll give it to Taskmaster 6/10.
Originally posted by Mindset
Omg that's incredible!He isn't stronger than TM.
So where has it ever been stated that Taskmaster has peak human strength? I really don't need your opinion because I checked and it doesn't say that. He can lift two times his own weight. So omg you're wrong. Either tell me of a time where he's shown that he's stronger or stop with this notion that he is. I have reason to believe that Nightwing is stronger, not that it matters much.
Anything else is a waste of my time. I've already given the win to Taskmaster. Moving on now.
Originally posted by MarvelknightLol at being able to only lift 2 times his weight.
So where has it ever been stated that Taskmaster has peak human strength? I really don't need your opinion because I checked and it doesn't say that. He can lift two times his own weight. So omg you're wrong.Anything else is a waste of my time. I've already given the win to Taskmaster.
Are you serious?
Dick is in real trouble here I think. While I know that Dick can often get a bad reputation, he always does his best to rise to the occasion. He gets smacked around a lot, jammed in to places he really doesn't want to be, and is regularly stuck with an asshole for a partner. While I think he'd give it a fair shot, I just don't think Dick is going to get through this without being beaten.
Originally posted by -Pr-awegimp
Dick is in real trouble here I think. While I know that Dick can often get a bad reputation, he always does his best to rise to the occasion. He gets smacked around a lot, jammed in to places he really doesn't want to be, and is regularly stuck with an as[b]shole for a partner. While I think he'd give it a fair shot, I just don't think Dick is going to get through this without being beaten. [/B]
Originally posted by Mindset
Lol at being able to only lift 2 times his weight.Are you serious?
What's funny to me is how you haven't shown no prof or even tell me of a time where Taskmaster has shown he has peak human strength. This is a debate not a laughing contest. Do you have probable cause to back you claim?
Originally posted by -Pr-
Dick is in real trouble here I think. While I know that Dick can often get a bad reputation, he always does his best to rise to the occasion. He gets smacked around a lot, jammed in to places he really doesn't want to be, and is regularly stuck with an as[b]shole for a partner. While I think he'd give it a fair shot, I just don't think Dick is going to get through this without being beaten. [/B]
I agreed with most of your character assessment. But he is in no more trouble than what he's had with Deathstroke. And I put Deathstroke over Taskmaster any day of the week. I can go with Taskmaster coming out on top. But it's not a stomp.
Originally posted by MarvelknightYes, I do.
What's funny to me is how you haven't shown no prof or even tell me of a time where Taskmaster has shown he has peak human strength. This is a debate not a laughing contest. Do you have probable cause to back you claim?I agreed with your character assessment. But he is in no more trouble than what he's had with Deathstroke. And I put Deathstroke over Taskmaster any day of the week. I can go with Taskmaster coming out on top. But it's not a stomp.
But do you seriously think TM is weaker than a large portion of real world humans?
Originally posted by Mindset
Yes, I do.But do you seriously think TM is weaker than a large portion of real world humans?
No I do not. But I can say the same for Nightwing as well. He's held an elevator car by the cable with people inside. And he's held up rubble from a building set on fire. Can't see no human in the real world doing that.