Odin Force Thor/Bor vs Current Hulk/The Void

Originally posted by quanchi112
Rulk was never losing though.

Who did he kill that's unkillable ? I mean punching out a watcher isn't that impressive imo.

Thor won due to a cheapshot while he was fighting the hulk. Hardly a fair fight. One on one Rulk owned him.

How many times has Hulk "beaten" Thor via a sucker punch? (when I say beaten, I mean, knocking Thor down and running away). Either way, Rulk caught Thor by surprise in their first fight also. And Thor wasn't even using any Odin Force in that fight regardless.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
How many times has Hulk "beaten" Thor via a sucker punch? (when I say beaten, I mean, knocking Thor down and running away). Either way, Rulk caught Thor by surprise in their first fight also. And Thor wasn't even using any Odin Force in that fight regardless.

Thor only beat him with the Hulk's aid and a sucker hammer toss. Rulk was tanking Thor's odinforce blows like nothing the first fight when it was fair and one on one.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Rulk was never losing though.

Who did he kill that's unkillable ? I mean punching out a watcher isn't that impressive imo.

Thor won due to a cheapshot while he was fighting the hulk. Hardly a fair fight. One on one Rulk owned him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
There's no proof he wasn't using it only a thor backed would say that he lost the portion later when he fixed his hammer.

Thor only beat him with the Hulk's aid and a sucker hammer toss. Rulk was tanking Thor's odinforce blows like nothing the first fight when it was fair and one on one.

According to Loeb, Thor thought he was fighting Green Hulk (I'd post a link but the site won't let me. But check the fight for yourself also, Rulk says, "I get it, you think I'm the Hulk"😉, and according to Loeb, Thor tends to hold back, and after Thor got knocked around a bit, he made the decision to not hold back, and subsequently pummeled Rulk by the character's own admission almost to death.

Thor actually in overall context ends up looking kinda okay. Bear in mind, Rulk also knocked out a Watcher, killed Silver Surfer, and Hulk, and Namor, Dr Strange, Terrax and an Elder of the Universe. Loeb expressly wanted to use Thor, because Thor has power. If you want people to think a character is powerful, the fastest way is make them look good against Thor, Hulk or Silver Surfer, looking good can be a temporary thing as well, and lots of characters launch their 'careers' this way, Wonder Man did as well.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
According to Loeb, Thor thought he was fighting Green Hulk (I'd post a link but the site won't let me. But check the fight for yourself also, Rulk says, "I get it, you think I'm the Hulk"😉, and according to Loeb, Thor tends to hold back, and after Thor got knocked around a bit, he made the decision to not hold back, and subsequently pummeled Rulk by the character's own admission almost to death.

Thor actually in overall context ends up looking kinda okay. Bear in mind, Rulk also knocked out a Watcher, killed Silver Surfer, and Hulk, and Namor, Dr Strange, Terrax and an Elder of the Universe. Loeb expressly wanted to use Thor, because Thor has power. If you want people to think a character is powerful, the fastest way is make them look good against Thor, Hulk or Silver Surfer, looking good can be a temporary thing as well, and lots of characters launch their 'careers' this way, Wonder Man did as well.

The Surfer was a noob making it not as impressive and I have seen watchers disintegrated by attacks that didn't even ko Annihilus.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he didn;t hold back and started the fight with a cheapshot hammer toss from an odin powered Thor which is a big deal.

The Surfer was a noob making it not as impressive and I have seen watchers disintegrated by attacks that didn't even ko Annihilus.

So what are your excuses for everyone else he beat?

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
So what are your excuses for everyone else he beat?

It didn't look to me like he cheap-shotted the Grandmaster.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
It didn't look to me like he cheap-shotted the Grandmaster.

Not only that, but Sentry/Void was taken out by the Hellacarrier. If the Avengers had wanted, they could have killed him right there.

Originally posted by quanchi112
From what I recall he did just that but it's been a while.

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4296/grandmaster.jpg

*I guess I have enough posts now to post a link.*

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Not only that, but Sentry/Void was taken out by the Hellacarrier. If the Avengers had wanted, they could have killed him right there.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was taken out by the helicarrier it served as the plot device which caused his bob persona to come to.

As I said earlier, Rulk beating Thor was to serve the plot to show how powerful Rulk was.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
As I said earlier, Rulk beating Thor was to serve the plot to show how powerful Rulk was.

And again, I didn't see Thor using any OF powers in that fight. I have no doubt Rulk would beat Odin in a straight up slugfest if Loeb had been writing it.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
And again, I didn't see Thor using any OF powers in that fight. I have no doubt Rulk would beat Odin in a straight up slugfest if Loeb had been writing it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It makes him more powerful which he was. He didn't lose it till afterwards. Accept it. Rulk like you said had crazy beatdowns and beating up Thor with a portion of it isn't that far out there considering what else he did in this first 6 issues.

Accept what? I'm not sure what your problem is here. How much more powerful is OF Thor than normal Thor? Not very. He only had a fraction of the OF, and it was really only used or mentioned occasionally as a plot device. What's funny is non-Odin Force Thor beat the crap out of the Red Hulk recently.

Don't call him Odin Force powered Thor. I hate that so much. F*ck Breevort for introducing that. It was pretty clear that Thor was not treated any different. Even the inter dialogue utilized with the fight with Bor doesn't match up with Prime #5.

I thought it was made clear that Thor/Rulk were peers even back then by the way. Thor was utilized for the sole purpose of making Rulk looking like a credible threat though.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Accept what? I'm not sure what your problem is here. How much more powerful is OF Thor than normal Thor? Not very. He only had a fraction of the OF, and it was really only used or mentioned occasionally as a plot device. What's funny is non-Odin Force Thor beat the crap out of the Red Hulk recently.

I remember the interview with Loeb. F*cking bastard was going to have Rulk smash Thor with Mjolnir one way or another. Thank god the space excuse was given thanks to Breevort.