Phyla loses flat out. The team wins, flat out. Going on to just Wendell...
Well, one of Martian Manhunter's big trumps - telepathy - is going to be mostly useless here, since Wendell has near immunity to it -- I think the limits have only really been tested by Moondragon (though I have some feeling, what with all his interactions with the Squadron Supreme, that Overmind might have tried something and failed?) but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that Martian Manhunter's normal telepathic attacks, at least, are going to be mostly useless.
That said, Martian Manhunter's other big trump -- phasing -- HAS proven extremely effective against Quasar on at least one occasion that I can recall (The Red Ghost). Add in the fact that Quasar has almost always had trouble against serious top tiers in strength (Gladiator, Tutinex) and the fact that I've never actually seen him generate fire, and I think Martian Manhunter takes a slight majority. Of course his command of energy COULD lead him to just trying microwave energy that sets something on fire, which is why I only give Martian Manhunter a SLIGHT majority, but I think it's more likely that MM is going to use his phasing to get in close and just bound the crap out of him.
He was essentially immune. Moondragon's psi bolts did little more than shake him (as opposed to, say, kill him, as they did with Drax). He was still fine to keep talking and fighting, I think the most that happened was he was a bit disoriented.
And Martian Manhunter CAN be affected if any fire is started, even while phased.
Originally posted by zopzop
Was she even trying to kill him (Quasar)? No right?
She was trying to incapacitate him, which she failed to do, as he himself says. She wasn't trying to kill Drax, just stop him, but she did that too.
Can Quasar make fire from his Q-bands? I've never seen it, ever.
Tell me you're kidding.
Are you familiar with what fire IS? How energy transfer works?
Originally posted by Desaad
Phyla loses flat out. The team wins, flat out. Going on to just Wendell...Well, one of Martian Manhunter's big trumps - telepathy - is going to be mostly useless here, since Wendell has near immunity to it -- I think the limits have only really been tested by Moondragon (though I have some feeling, what with all his interactions with the Squadron Supreme, that Overmind might have tried something and failed?) but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that Martian Manhunter's normal telepathic attacks, at least, are going to be mostly useless.
That said, Martian Manhunter's other big trump -- phasing -- HAS proven extremely effective against Quasar on at least one occasion that I can recall (The Red Ghost). Add in the fact that Quasar has almost always had trouble against serious top tiers in strength (Gladiator, Tutinex) and the fact that I've never actually seen him generate fire, and I think Martian Manhunter takes a slight majority. Of course his command of energy COULD lead him to just trying microwave energy that sets something on fire, which is why I only give Martian Manhunter a SLIGHT majority, but I think it's more likely that MM is going to use his phasing to get in close and just bound the crap out of him.
ohhh, excellent post. i agree completely.
Originally posted by Desaad
[B]She was trying to incapacitate him, which she failed to do, as he himself says. She wasn't trying to kill Drax, just stop him, but she did that too.
Are you referring to the Quasar/Moondragon fight when Moondragon was manipulating Kayla? Because Moondragon just wanted him off her. She wasn't up for a fight so she summoned Warlock and Warlock soul raped him.
Tell me you're kidding.Are you familiar with what fire IS? How energy transfer works?
Can you produce on panel evidence of Quasar creating fire from his Q-bands?
@MrMind
Thank you for that bit of info. Then Quasar gets raped by MM.
Originally posted by zopzop
[B]Are you referring to the Quasar/Moondragon fight when Moondragon was manipulating Kayla? Because Moondragon just wanted him off her. She wasn't up for a fight so she summoned Warlock and Warlock soul raped him.
Yeah. If she could have knocked him out with a psionic blast, that would have been the most expedient method of what she wanted, she would have.
Unless your argument is that she's not a strong enough psi to knock out a normally susceptible man with a psionic blast?
Can you produce on panel evidence of Quasar creating fire from his Q-bands?
The fact that he can create microwaves with his weapon means that he can create fire, so long as there is anything combustible in the vicinity.
That's really basic, basic science.
Originally posted by Desaad
[B]Yeah. If she could have knocked him out with a psionic blast, that would have been the most expedient method of what she wanted, she would have.Unless your argument is that she's not a strong enough psi to knock out a normally susceptible man with a psionic blast?
The fact that she was occupied with studying Kayla and the Starbrand (which she viewed as a dangerous power) had something to do with it.
Plus Moondragon used that Mind Gem like a scrub. All that power and she could only stalemate Prof X. at best? Meh to her.
The fact that he can create microwaves with his weapon means that he can create fire, so long as there is anything combustible in the vicinity.That's really basic, basic science.
True but how would this come into play in a fight? Is Quasar gonna hurl garbage at him then ignite it? Where is the fight taking place? On the ground? In the air? In space?
If they're in space and there is no atmosphere then fire is never going to come into play. Assuming planet with normal atmosphere, any wide assault has the possibility of setting something on fire.
As for Mind Gem/Moondragon, there is no one else who has done better with it. Point being, even the weakest of psionics can knock someone out with a psionic blast