Pre-Crisis Dr. Fate Vs Void

Started by quanchi1126 pages

Originally posted by Uriel005
Your still wrong
Concession accepted.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Thats when he was at his peak and that is the era of when he was uber ala classic Strange.

Im not not talikng about the Zom fight, im talking about a defenders arc(iirc) when Hulk suprise attacks Strange and beats on him, which Strange is fine after(all with out his gaurd/shields up i may add)

And Void having powers that he never had before or used since isnt a copout. Classic Starnge rarely failed against threats that were bigger than the Void, and the threats Strange faced were a threat to the 616 universe.So like the Voids "new" powers he suddenly discovered. First time they never even fought, so it can easily said Void never beat Strange as well. The second encounter Strange only put up a shield to protect Bob, which the Void couldnt get through.

How when he couldnt overpwer them before, and more powerful beings have not got through his shields(Galactus,Inbetweener and the Living Tribunal when he was testing Stranges power limits) Stranges power limit is above Voids. Strange has dsetroyed planets in 1 shot, destroyed dimesnions and has shaked the universe with his power. Also Strange can tap into/use larger powers like the Vishanti,Chaos and Order even Eternity and has used the power of God himself before

Classic still defines an era not just under one writer.

I am not talking about Zom I am talking about tricking Strange to crush his hands.

Yes, both can be seen as copouts and usually plot devices are such as Thor's hammer as well. My point is despite Strange's tricks and Thor's hammers tricks both in direct comparison can't beat the Void if he doesn't want to lose.

I see him as facing uber threats just fine but let's not pretend Strange didn't fail and need help all the time. Against the Void he was clueless.

I agree but Void's powers are greater than either on panel.

It's worse than being beaten to put Reed and Strange up against him and the only solution in how to defeat the Void is not to face him. That's knowing you can't beat him.

Because Lt and the others can also get through them. Sure it won't be easy but all have the power necessary to do so.

I disagree as his powers out of Strange's own mouth tends to imply otherwise.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Fate summons a hellicarrier and drops it on the Void's head.
That won't defeat him. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
That won't defeat him. 🙂
It already did 🙂

Originally posted by Black bolt z
It already did 🙂
I didn't it caused Bob to resurface and then force Thor into killing him. If it defeated him then he wouldn't have done anything else in the story. Do you kno what defeated means ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I didn't it caused Bob to resurface and then force Thor into killing him. If it defeated him then he wouldn't have done anything else in the story. Do you kno what defeated means ?
Just like Hulk was "defeated" when sentry "burned him out"? Two sides of the same coin.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Just like Hulk was "defeated" when sentry "burned him out"? Two sides of the same coin.
Hulk was burned out of his powers I never said he was defeated he stalemated the sentry. Then events took place which spiked his anger.

Bob wasn't beaten he grabbed the heroes and forced Thor to kill him due to the guilt of his actions. LOL.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk was burned out of his powers I never said he was defeated he stalemated the sentry. Then events took place which spiked his anger.

Bob wasn't beaten he grabbed the heroes and forced Thor to kill him due to the guilt of his actions. LOL.

He still had lots of power while sentry was taken to a hospital.

Which means shit.

As I said before fate makes him disappear.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
He still had lots of power while sentry was taken to a hospital.

Which means shit.

As I said before fate makes him disappear.

No, he was burned out and needed outside events to rattle his cage.

He can reappear. LOL. Void stomps.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he was burned out and needed outside events to rattle his cage.

He can reappear. LOL. Void stomps.

Prove it. Give us void feats.

Because fate is obviously portrayed as stronger.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Prove it. Give us void feats.

Because fate is obviously portrayed as stronger.

MM feat, Loki feat, bringing down asgard, beating Thor, Hulk, earth simultaneously with ease, raping Terrax while holding back, ripping Ares in half.

Originally posted by quanchi112
MM feat, Loki feat, bringing down asgard, beating Thor, Hulk, earth simultaneously with ease, raping Terrax while holding back, ripping Ares in half.
Still non of that is impressive against PC fate.

Fate could do all of that especially against a jobbing MM.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Still non of that is impressive against PC fate.

Fate could do all of that especially against a jobbing MM.

Give me then 3 impressive fate feats. This question will make you disappear.

When did Sentry or Void defeat Thor one on one? I must have missed that comic.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
When did Sentry or Void defeat Thor one on one? I must have missed that comic.
Read his first series he had Thor, Hulk all at his mercy until he went away. I guess you did miss it.

Do you have scans?

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Do you have scans?
Nope. I won't post scans just because you are unfamiliar with it. Your problem.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nope. I won't post scans just because you are unfamiliar with it. Your problem.

You're a little sensitive about the Sentry, aren't you? Oh well. I'm assuming there's some info you're leaving out of that fight.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
You're a little sensitive about the Sentry, aren't you? Oh well. I'm assuming there's some info you're leaving out of that fight.
None. I don't post scans when people ask all the time. If you are unfamiliar with it it's your problem.

Its doubtful that even happened the way u say it did, but even if it did, Dr. Fate could kill all of those people at once with a twitch of his finger anyway.

And the Void could have been killed after being hit by the Hellicarrier if they had wanted to kill him there and then, whether he wanted to die or not. So its doubtful he could survive a powerful attack from Fate.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Its doubtful that even happened the way u say it did, but even if it did, Dr. Fate could kill all of those people at once with a twitch of his finger anyway.

And the Void could have been killed after being hit by the Hellicarrier if they had wanted to kill him there and then, whether he wanted to die or not. So its doubtful he could survive a powerful attack from Fate.

So can the Void but we all know all the heroes won't die in the books but on the forums they can.

Void only dies when he wants to and Fate doesn't have the power to do so.

Actually, he dies right here if the heroes were ruthless.

http://www.comics101.com/comics101//images/view.php?src=../news/Comics%20101/287/IMG_5222.jpg&w=500

Whether he wants to or not.