Originally posted by thanos-prime
Both rounds to DD Bronze tiger had a good fight with catman who i don't think is in DD's league.
I wouldn't use that fight to rate Ben. Catman did ok. But Tiger took him down easy when he got mad. Also he took down Batman with just one side kick and has gone toe to toe with Deathstroke, even getting the upper hand against him during their fight.
Originally posted by MarvelknightHe obviously isn't on the level of casually owning batman anymore his fight with catman proves this.
I wouldn't use that fight to rate Ben. Catman did ok. But Tiger took him down easy when he got mad. Also he took down Batman with just one side kick and has gone toe to toe with Deathstroke, even getting the upper hand against him during their fight.
Originally posted by thanos-prime
He obviously isn't on the level of casually owning batman anymore his fight with catman proves this.
He got 3 hits in and had to bite Ben. The Bite was the only real damage done and it was a desperation move. Please Catman is not even in DC's top ten most skilled fighters. Bronze Tiger is.
Now I'm not sure if Ben will just one shot Bruce now. But I know that Batman would be in for one hell of a fight and maybe he'll win. And Bronze Tiger is one of DC's very best. I'd even say he's a better fighter than Batman.
Originally posted by MarvelknightHad to bite him? no this is just the way catman fights he has very brutal and animalistic fighting style. i know he is not one of the top fighters this proves my point he did much better against bronze tiger than he should have assuming this is i casually own batman bronze tiger.
He got 3 hits in and had to bite Ben. The Bite was the only real damage done and it was a desperation move. Please Catman is not even in DC's top ten most skilled fighters. Bronze Tiger is.Now I'm not sure if Ben will just one shot Bruce now. But I know that Batman would be in for one hell of a fight and maybe he'll win. And Bronze Tiger is one of DC's very best. I'd even say he's a better fighter than Batman.
Originally posted by thanos-prime
Had to bite him? no this is just the way catman fights he has very brutal and animalistic fighting style. i know he is not one of the top fighters this proves my point he did much better against bronze tiger than he should have assuming this is i casually own batman bronze tiger.
Catman has done good against Bruce. He's is a capable fighter. But let's not try to use that fight as an example of what Tiger can do. And you're ignoring that fact that Ben beat Catman with ease after he took that bite.
Originally posted by MarvelknightHe didn't do good against bruce it wasn't even a fight all that happened was the bruce was surprised by his radical improvement in skill, And the fact that bronze tiger could have died after that fight means nothing?
Catman has done good against Bruce. He's is a capable fighter. But let's not try to use that fight as an example of what Tiger can do. And you're ignoring that fact that Ben beat Catman with ease after he took that bite.
Originally posted by thanos-prime
He didn't do good against bruce it wasn't even a fight all that happened was the bruce was surprised by his radical improvement in skill, And the fact that bronze tiger could have died after that fight means nothing?
For someone so skilled he shouldn't do so lousy against a not even top 10 fighter.
Sure he could have died. But it would've happened after he just knocked Catman out. Which he did. What did Catman do after the bite? Exactly...
Originally posted by MarvelknightIt doesn't matter the fact that he was able to land such a devastating blow on someone who is supposedly better than batman is a feat in and of itself he would never do something like that to someone who was truly superior to batman.
Sure he could have died. But it would've happened after he just knocked Catman out. Which he did. What did Catman do to after the bite? Exactly...
Originally posted by thanos-prime
It doesn't matter the fact that he was able to land such a devastating blow on someone who is supposedly better than batman is a feat in and of itself he would never do something like that to someone who was truly superior to batman.
This is the endgame here and now. So is Batman superior to Deathstroke?? The answer is no. What happened every time Batman fought Slade 1 on 1? Got put down. What happened in the moments in Bronze Tiger and Slade's fight before Deadshot interfered? Exactly...
ABC logic can be used both ways. For that matter Deathstroke >> Daredevil. So where does this place Bronze Tiger? Exactly...
Originally posted by MarvelknightHow is mine abc logic? im using a fight he had to determine how i think this fight would go and unlike you im not using a fight he had with batman what 30 years ago?
This is the endgame here and now. So is Batman superior to Deathstroke?? The answer is no. What happened every time Batman fought Slade 1 on 1? Got put down. What happened in the moments in Bronze Tiger and Slade's fight before Deadshot interfered? Exactly...ABC logic can be used both ways. For that matter Deathstroke >> Daredevil. So where does this place Bronze Tiger? Exactly...
Originally posted by thanos-prime
Had to bite him? no this is just the way catman fights he has very brutal and animalistic fighting style.
No he doesn't. I've never seen him fight like that before, unless they've started changing his personality.
Originally posted by thanos-prime
How is mine abc logic? im using a fight he had to determine how i think this fight would go and unlike you im not using a fight he had with batman what 30 years ago?
Your just using one fight though.
Originally posted by DeadlineYou haven't? how about the time he charged an entire ship full of villains and starting tearing them to pieces? And as a matter of fact his personaliy has started to change.
No he doesn't. I've never seen him fight like that before, unless they've started changing his personality.
Originally posted by thanos-prime
How is mine abc logic? im using a fight he had to determine how i think this fight would go and unlike you im not using a fight he had with batman what 30 years ago?
I'll help you understand. You feel that Catman did better than he should have and you also stated that Catman isn't in Daredevil's league (abc logic). That's the base of your conclusion is this fight between Daredevil and Bronze Tiger. I countered your argument.
And you're assuming Bronze Tiger has somehow forgotten how to fight since his last fight with Batman. Either that or you feel he has fallen off since then. It don't really matter if the fight was awhile back. And Catman maybe has gotten a little better. Did he win? Not a chance, and Ben is alive. But you had nothing to say about my point using Slade. And it is that fight that should say something about Ben's fighting skills. Since he did a far better than Bruce has against Slade.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
I'll help you understand. you feel Catman did better than he should and you also stated that Catman isn't in Daredevil's league. The base of your conclusion is this fight between Daredevil and Bronze Tiger. I countered your argument.And you're assuming Bronze Tiger hassomehow forgotten how to fight since his last fight with Batman. Either that or you feel he has fallen off since than. It's don't really matter if the fight was awhile back. And Catman maybe has gotten a little better. Did he win? Not a chance, and Ben is alive. But you had nothing to say about my point using Slade. And it is that fight that should say something about Ben's fighting skills. Since he did a far better than Bruce has against Slade.
How long ago did he fight Slade? I gotta admit Batman back in the day wasn't all that though.
Originally posted by MarvelknightLol i need no help understanding, and lol at you accusing me of abc logic then basing your argument on it, im not assuming he has lost any skill just that he has not been held to beyond batman status as of late, oh and slade is not >> DD he is only physically superior and that doesn't give him an insta-win. and lol at catman not winning that fight im pretty sure catman wasn't the one who almost died of blood loss.
I'll help you understand. you feel Catman did better than he should and you also stated that Catman isn't in Daredevil's league. The base of your conclusion is this fight between Daredevil and Bronze Tiger. I countered your argument.And you're assuming Bronze Tiger hassomehow forgotten how to fight since his last fight with Batman. Either that or you feel he has fallen off since than. It's don't really matter if the fight was awhile back. And Catman maybe has gotten a little better. Did he win? Not a chance, and Ben is alive. But you had nothing to say about my point using Slade. And it is that fight that should say something about Ben's fighting skills. Since he did a far better than Bruce has against Slade.