First look at Spider-man from the new movie.

Originally posted by Arahan
Whats wrong about organic webbing? It could happen that he got the webbing as a power. I mean Spiderman has super strentgh, durability, speed, healing by the spider bite why not the webbing? I really dont understand why you are bitching so much about it.

You should be more upset about Spiderman 3, well that was a movie to complian.

In the reboot Iam not very happy with the Costume. This is more important than the web shooters imo. And what the hell is happening here 😆 😆 😆

either a hurracanranna(sp?) or something else 😂 😂 😂 😂 😮

Originally posted by Arahan
Whats wrong about organic webbing? It could happen that he got the webbing as a power. I mean Spiderman has super strentgh, durability, speed, healing by the spider bite why not the webbing? I really dont understand why you are bitching so much about it.

You should be more upset about Spiderman 3, well that was a movie to complian.

In the reboot Iam not very happy with the Costume. This is more important than the web shooters imo. And what the hell is happening here 😆 😆 😆

well a man-spider fan like you wont understand this but organics equals man-spider,a monster chemical webbing equals spiderman,some of us care about sony raping to death his character and seing this phony neautered version of being called spiderman when the character is REALLY man-spider. 🙄 as was spiderman one as well which wasnt that much better when you take the blinders off. 🙄 well thats man-spider logic for ya. that the costume is more importan than the shooters.🙄 with organics,any idiot like flash thompson could have created the webbing,with the mechs it was peter and peters destiny alone to be come spiderman because not just anybody could have been smart enough like he was to create the webbing. 😆 😆

Originally posted by spidermanrocks
Him knowing MJ since grade school isn't a major change. The important part is that they stay true to the PERSONALITIES and MOTIVATIONS of the characters. THAT is the most important part of a character. As long as they got that part right, I am fine with small changes such as Peter knowing MJ since grade school.

It isn't Raimi's fault that the films had organics instead of mechanical webshooters. Blame Sony for that. I do admit that they should have used mechanical webshooters instead of organic webbing. The major thing wrong with Spidey's character in the Raimi franchise is that he wasn't a wisecracker. Other than that, Raimi's take on the character wasn't that bad. I would have liked to see Spidey use his brain in battles more (just like in the comics). But overall, Raimi's films were pretty decent Spider-Man films. They didn't capture all important aspects of the characters like how Nolan's Batman captured all important aspects of Batman. But they were still good Spider-Man movies (except 3). Spider-Man 1 was ok. Spider-Man 2 was great. Spider-Man 3 was garbage.

Stop treating Raimi's films as if they raped Spidey to death. You seem to think that they are equally as bad as the Burton/Schumalker Batman movies and they're FAR superior.

And how do you hate organics but don't mind the reboot's costume? The costume looks terrible and stupid IMO.

actually it was that jerk James cameron to blame for organics because in case you did not know,HE was the idiot that came up with the idea and since he is such a well respected director,sony ignorantly caved in to what he originally wanted and like the idea.Raimi is a yes man,he does not have the balls to stick up the them and say- i will make this movie the way i want to or i wont make it so he was the perfect replacement for Cameron.He doesnt have guts like Nolan.Nolan was told initially by warner brothers to make batman begins a certain way but HE wasnt a coward.he stood up to them and told them-I will make this movie the way I want to,not the way you want me to.so I do blame Raimi because he is a coward being the yes man he is.

and so what,him knowing her since grade school is another moronic unnessary change,get with the program.oh and i have ALWAYS blamed sony and Cameron mostly for raping to death the character of spiderman just so you know. 😉 i only hate raimi for being a yes man and not standing up to them like Nolan did with warner brothers.sorry they ARE equally as bad as Burton/schumachers batman movies are,I told you, once you get past how great the special effects are and you use an objective mind,they ARE horribly written and pathetic movies. but with your user name you have,you obviously arent open minded about that and how bad these movies really are. you dont have batman as part of your user name,so you are objective when it comes to those films,too bad you wont do the same for those pathetic spiderman films which i consider even WORSE than the burton/schumacher batman films which i never thought would be possible.

oh and as you can see from the results of your poll you did one time,there are quite a few others that agree with me that these films suck. 😆 😆 😂 👆 the poll was pretty even by the numbers.

if you dont think the organics pissed off thousands of fans and ruined it chances to be number one at the box office,your dead wrong.this is a true story i swear to god.i used to work as a stocker a toy store at the time when that movie came out and i used to have kids come in there all the time and i would hear them ask their friends if they had seen the spiderman movie yet and i would always hear comments from them like-yeah i seen it.the thing i hated about it though was didnt he have like webshooters on his wrists and he created the webbing though? and they would reply MANY times and say-yeah he did,yeah that movie really sucked,i cant believe they didnt give him those.

I blame Stan Lee.

No I don't.

oh and here is that link to that poll you gave.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f47/t512503.html

as i said,as you can see,the results were pretty even and others agree with me that the movies really suck.lol. and as i said in my last post,that story about those kids that came into my store all the time that year talking about how they hated the movie because he did not have the mechanical shooters,is true,i swear.i have no reason to make that up.the kids are a large part of spidermans appeal,sony just hurt themselves box office wise by doing that.the man-spider fans will live in denial about that of course but its so obviously true.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
well a man-spider fan like you wont understand this but organics equals man-spider,a monster chemical webbing equals spiderman,some of us care about sony raping to death his character and seing this phony neautered version of being called spiderman when the character is REALLY man-spider. 🙄 as was spiderman one as well which wasnt that much better when you take the blinders off. 🙄 well thats man-spider logic for ya. that the costume is more importan than the shooters.🙄 with organics,any idiot like flash thompson could have created the webbing,with the mechs it was peter and peters destiny alone to be come spiderman because not just anybody could have been smart enough like he was to create the webbing. 😆 😆

No one besides Peter can be Spider-Man. You can't just gain Spider abilities and call yourself Spider-Man. Even if the whole Marvel universe was born with spider-powers (including organic webbing), Peter would still be the only one capable of being Spider-Man. Being Spider-Man means knowing the fact that the great power given upon him must be used for great responsibility. THAT is why the spider "chose" Peter (he didn't literally choose Peter but you get my point) to be the one with great power. Someone like Flash Thompson wouldn't be able to be Spider-Man even if he had organic webbing. Why? Because only Peter is the one that knows how to use the spider's abilities for good.

And even if you were to argue that anyone could have been Spider-Man with organic webbing, that is still not true. Spider-Man is very intelligent. He always defeats his enemies by using his brain. Flash Thompson (and almost everyone else in the Spider-Man supporting cast) would not be able to defeat any villains because they wouldn't be smart enough. So even with organic webbing, Peter is still the only true Spider-Man.

except that it wasn't hurt box office wise. Spider-Man made over 800 million dollars. Spider-Man 2 made over 700 million, and Spider-Man 3 made almost 900 million.

It wasn't hurt at all.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
actually it was that jerk James cameron to blame for organics because in case you did not know,HE was the idiot that came up with the idea and since he is such a well respected director,sony ignorantly caved in to what he originally wanted and like the idea.Raimi is a yes man,he does not have the balls to stick up the them and say- i will make this movie the way i want to or i wont make it so he was the perfect replacement for Cameron.He doesnt have guts like Nolan.Nolan was told initially by warner brothers to make batman begins a certain way but HE wasnt a coward.he stood up to them and told them-I will make this movie the way I want to,not the way you want me to.so I do blame Raimi because he is a coward being the yes man he is.

and so what,him knowing her since grade school is another moronic unnessary change,get with the program.oh and i have ALWAYS blamed sony and Cameron mostly for raping to death the character of spiderman just so you know. 😉 i only hate raimi for being a yes man and not standing up to them like Nolan did with warner brothers.sorry they ARE equally as bad as Burton/schumachers batman movies are,I told you, once you get past how great the special effects are and you use an objective mind,they ARE horribly written and pathetic movies. but with your user name you have,you obviously arent open minded about that and how bad these movies really are. you dont have batman as part of your user name,so you are objective when it comes to those films,too bad you wont do the same for those pathetic spiderman films which i consider even WORSE than the burton/schumacher batman films which i never thought would be possible.

oh and as you can see from the results of your poll you did one time,there are quite a few others that agree with me that these films suck. 😆 😆 😂 👆 the poll was pretty even by the numbers.

if you dont think the organics pissed off thousands of fans and ruined it chances to be number one at the box office,your dead wrong.this is a true story i swear to god.i used to work as a stocker a toy store at the time when that movie came out and i used to have kids come in there all the time and i would hear them ask their friends if they had seen the spiderman movie yet and i would always hear comments from them like-yeah i seen it.the thing i hated about it though was didnt he have like webshooters on his wrists and he created the webbing though? and they would reply MANY times and say-yeah he did,yeah that movie really sucked,i cant believe they didnt give him those.

I know that idea came from James Cameron. But blame Sony for caving into his idea. And what do you think Sony would have said if Raimi wouldn't have accepted organics? They would have told him "Then you're off the project. We don't want people like you directing Spider-Man." And Sony would have done that to every other director that would have directed the Spider-Man films. And Nolan was never told to make Batman Begins a certain way. Warner Bros just asked him to make a good dark Batman film. They didn't interfere with Nolan's ideas a lot.

And just to tell you, Raimi is the same "yes man" who walked off the project and suggested for a reboot to happen when Sony was about to interfere and make Spider-Man 4 the way they wanted to. So because of Raimi, we will now get a good reboot instead of a crappy Spider-Man film where Sony had more involvement in than Raimi (like Spider-Man 3). If Raimi was the yes-man you claim he is, then he wouldn't have walked away from the Spider-Man 4 project.

And WHY is it a moronic change? Care to explain? It is a very minor change, just like how Lucius Fox being the one supplying Batman with gadgets in Batman Begins is a minor change too. It never affected the personalities and motivations of the characters. That is what is the most important content that the movies must borrow from the comics, not small nitpicks like yours.

You think the Burton/Schumalker films were better than the Spider-Man films? Wow. Just wow. I don't even know what to say. You have some bad taste in films, sir. The Spider-Man films are FAR more accurate to the Spider-Man comics (except SM3) than the old Batman films will ever be (compared to the Batman comics, of course). Plus, you keep saying that you like Batman Forever, when that movie isn't a good Batman adaptation. I do agree that Batman Forever was probably the closest Batman film to the comics out of the Burton/Schumalker films but it still sucked.

My username is referring to the Spider-Man CHARACTER. As for the pole, 16 people said they enjoyed the first two Spidey films and 6 people said that the first 2 Spidey films sucked. 37.5% of the people who voted hated Raimi's first 2 films while the rest liked them. And it was my younger brother who made that poll BTW. This account is owned by 3 people. And Spider-Man was one of the most liked film of 2002. I don't know where you're getting your info from. And LOL you expect me to believe that kids hated the films just because he didn't have organic webbing? Most kids didn't even know that Spidey has mechanical webshooters. ROFL 😆

Originally posted by -Pr-
except that it wasn't hurt box office wise. Spider-Man made over 800 million dollars. Spider-Man 2 made over 700 million, and Spider-Man 3 made almost 900 million.

It wasn't hurt at all.

The first film made 822 million. The second film made 784 million. The third film made 891 million.

Originally posted by spidermanrocks
The first film made 822 million. The second film made 784 million. The third film made 891 million.

aye.

Costume is OK. Not sure about the guys acting skills.

Originally posted by spidermanrocks
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It is a very minor change, just like how Lucius Fox being the one supplying Batman with gadgets in Batman Begins is a minor change too. It never affected the personalities and motivations of the characters.

Not much difference from the comics there 🙄

Originally posted by Mr Parker
I will NEVER become a MAN-SPIDER fan.I for one unlike thousands of others, were not willing to be happy and excited to finally see a spiderman movie made and be happy with it just because the name spiderman is on the screen and a guy is dressed in a spiderman outfit swinging around.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Costume is OK. Not sure about the guys acting skills.

The main problem is that the costume is just. OK. It looked amazing in this picture:
http://www.visocentral.com/spider-man-reboot-first-picture-of-andrew-garfield-as-spidey-yes-in-costume/

But it looks worse in the others. I'm happy that the biggest problem I have with the movie is the costume though. That gives me a lot of hope for it.

Lets hope they have peter doing wisecracks in this one.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Not much difference from the comics there 🙄

That change never affected the character's personality (which is the most important). Bale's Batman is still a playboy (when being Bruce Wayne), still has the same origin and backstory, same motivations and morals that Batman has, same fighting abilities, same detective skills (yes, he did use a bit of detective skills in TDK at the end when he analyses the bricks to find the Joker's location; I hope he uses more detective skills in TDKR. He probably will since he will be facing Bane, who is also very intelligent), etc.

Also, He barely asks Lucius to make him new gadgets. Lucius is just a guy that he visits sometimes whenever he needs something very important for his Batman persona (like the new suit). He gave Bruce the items he needed when he first became Batman and later asked him a year later to make him a new suit. It isn't the same scenario as in Batman Beyond, where Terry ALWAYS needs new items. I would say that Batman doesn't need to make most of the gadgets as long as he knows how to perfectly use them (in adaptations). And he does know how to perfectly use them in BB and TDK. And I'm glad that he at least constructed everything in the interior of the batcave.

I have a question for Mr Parker:

If Raimi's Spider-Man films had webshooters instead of organic webbing while everything else in Raimi's trilogy stayed the same, would you have liked the Spider-Man films? I know you would have probably hated Spider-Man 3. That's normal. I don't like it either and neither do most people. But would you have liked the first two Spidey flicks they had webshooters? I'm curious to hear your response. 🙄

Did you just reduce Spiderman to his web shooters?
You really have some issues 😉
Well I am still mixed up with Garfield as Spiderman.

Originally posted by spidermanrocks
No one besides Peter can be Spider-Man. You can't just gain Spider abilities and call yourself Spider-Man. Even if the whole Marvel universe was born with spider-powers (including organic webbing), Peter would still be the only one capable of being Spider-Man. Being Spider-Man means knowing the fact that the great power given upon him must be used for great responsibility. THAT is why the spider "chose" Peter (he didn't literally choose Peter but you get my point) to be the one with great power. Someone like Flash Thompson wouldn't be able to be Spider-Man even if he had organic webbing. Why? Because only Peter is the one that knows how to use the spider's abilities for good.

And even if you were to argue that anyone could have been Spider-Man with organic webbing, that is still not true. Spider-Man is very intelligent. He always defeats his enemies by using his brain. Flash Thompson (and almost everyone else in the Spider-Man supporting cast) would not be able to defeat any villains because they wouldn't be smart enough. So even with organic webbing, Peter is still the only true Spider-Man.

your dodging the FACT that if flash thompson or some other dork was the one that got bit,that without the organics,there would be no spiderman swiinging around town. 🙄

Originally posted by spidermanrocks
I know that idea came from James Cameron. But blame Sony for caving into his idea. And what do you think Sony would have said if Raimi wouldn't have accepted organics? They would have told him "Then you're off the project. We don't want people like you directing Spider-Man." And Sony would have done that to every other director that would have directed the Spider-Man films. And Nolan was never told to make Batman Begins a certain way. Warner Bros just asked him to make a good dark Batman film. They didn't interfere with Nolan's ideas a lot.

And just to tell you, Raimi is the same "yes man" who walked off the project and suggested for a reboot to happen when Sony was about to interfere and make Spider-Man 4 the way they wanted to. So because of Raimi, we will now get a good reboot instead of a crappy Spider-Man film where Sony had more involvement in than Raimi (like Spider-Man 3). If Raimi was the yes-man you claim he is, then he wouldn't have walked away from the Spider-Man 4 project.

And WHY is it a moronic change? Care to explain? It is a very minor change, just like how Lucius Fox being the one supplying Batman with gadgets in Batman Begins is a minor change too. It never affected the personalities and motivations of the characters. That is what is the most important content that the movies must borrow from the comics, not small nitpicks like yours.

You think the Burton/Schumalker films were better than the Spider-Man films? Wow. Just wow. I don't even know what to say. You have some bad taste in films, sir. The Spider-Man films are FAR more accurate to the Spider-Man comics (except SM3) than the old Batman films will ever be (compared to the Batman comics, of course). Plus, you keep saying that you like Batman Forever, when that movie isn't a good Batman adaptation. I do agree that Batman Forever was probably the closest Batman film to the comics out of the Burton/Schumalker films but it still sucked.

My username is referring to the Spider-Man CHARACTER. As for the pole, 16 people said they enjoyed the first two Spidey films and 6 people said that the first 2 Spidey films sucked. 37.5% of the people who voted hated Raimi's first 2 films while the rest liked them. And it was my younger brother who made that poll BTW. This account is owned by 3 people. And Spider-Man was one of the most liked film of 2002. I don't know where you're getting your info from. And LOL you expect me to believe that kids hated the films just because he didn't have organic webbing? Most kids didn't even know that Spidey has mechanical webshooters. ROFL 😆

thats not what I heard about Nolan. man-spider fans got no logic or common sense,to say organics is a minor change or knowing mj since grade school is is being just plain ignorant,it rapes to death this character and the spidey mythos.if you want to live in denial about that that, then your not a loyal spidey fan and dont care about sony raping to death the source material.go ahead,i dont care.,.im not going to explain it to you because my experrience with man-spider fans like you is you dont want to accept that fact.i already told you i would send you a link of my past bashings of the organics and why their moronic,you didnt ask for them,well thats all you'll get cause i certainly am not going to waste my breath with you on that.

prove that about Raimi,i dont believe it.

thats not true at all,kids no perfectly well he has mechanical webshooters,they saw the 90's cartoon show which ALWAYS showed he ahs mechanical webshooters. 🙄 stop making things up to suit your own tales and i told you only what i witnessed at that store,that doesnt mean ALL kids are like that,i never said that.are you calling me a liar that i made that story up about those kids? if you are,then this is far as this goes,i dont lie,matter of fact im pissed at my best friend right now cause i caught him blatanly lying to me red handed recently. i may make mistakes but i dont lie land i wasnt lying about that story i told you of those kids i heard talking about how they hated the movies cause of organics.

yeah spiderman rocks,but man-spider sucks and thats all we have in these three pathetic movies. 😆

Originally posted by spidermanrocks
I have a question for Mr Parker:

If Raimi's Spider-Man films had webshooters instead of organic webbing while everything else in Raimi's trilogy stayed the same, would you have liked the Spider-Man films? I know you would have probably hated Spider-Man 3. That's normal. I don't like it either and neither do most people. But would you have liked the first two Spidey flicks they had webshooters? I'm curious to hear your response. 🙄

your memory is just plain horrible,i said this below in my very FIRST sentence to you in my FIRST reply to you and you have ALREADY forgotten about this. 🙄

ah no,it was a LOT more than just organics that ruined those movies for me.the organics were just a side note on WHY those movies were so horrible.there were tons of other things about the movie i hated far worse than organics.

this is what i said at the very end as well.

seriously.I could send you a link to a thread from here from the past by pm where I gave my reasons on why the movies were so bad and why I bashed them if you like? at least then you'll know my REASONS for why i find these movies to look like they were written by some 5 year old.

please try and remember little details like that and not make me repeat myself.if your going to quote my post,at least have the courtesy to read the ENTIRE post and not just parts of it otherwise there is no sense in going on.