Black Adam Vs Ultraman

Started by carver95 pages

I'm not reaching. There isn't a shed of evidence proving the amp wore off.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
That was some serious ownage.

Believe me, in his 70+ years history this is the first time Adam has lost cleanly in a 1v1 fight. John Cena has nothing on this guy.

And that is not an amp, that is 100 percent charge.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lulz. You might break something you're reaching so far. Also MY SIG?

Not your Sig...meant to say Galan Sig.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not reaching. There isn't a shed of evidence proving the amp wore off.

Except the fact that its not an amp to begin with? Ultraman was beginning to run low on power, he snorted some kryptonite to get back at his full strength and just after this fight he has to go snort some more kryptonite because his powers were beginning to run low again?

Originally posted by carver9
Not your Sig...meant to say Galan Sig.

Sure buddy.

It's said Black Adam gets his power from Green K, not that he is always amped by it.

Though I could see that this might mean there is no 'standard' level for him. That his powers naturally vary a lot more than Superman's--really high right after getting some Green K, then dropping faster.

Guess we will need to see.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Believe me, in his 70+ years history this is the first time Adam has lost cleanly in a 1v1 fight. John Cena has nothing on this guy.

Actually Superman pretty well dominated him in the trailer for the DCU online game.

Originally posted by carver9
Ultraman is amped, so more than likely, he is above any Herald in DCNU and that includes Supes.
No.

K-nite is the source of Ultraman's power(without it, his powers wane), and sunlight is the antithesis of his power. This is the direct opposite of Superman, if you didn't notice:

That's why he was eating k-nite when he first arrived on earth 3 as a baby:

That's why he's still huffing it now:

What we don't know is how often he must 'recharge', and/or what it takes to deplete, the k-nite reserves in his body. Since he's been in the mainstream DCU, Ulty has taken a single huff of k-nite, and that was sufficient for him to effortlessly move the moon, effortlessly own Black Adam, and also engage in a few miscellaneous activities in between. So a little bit of k-nite definitely seems to go a LONG way for him.

However, he did need to take a hit of k-nite in the wake of he and BA's battle, which is why he went looking for Metallo:

Regardless, fresh k-nite consumption shouldn't be considered an 'amp' for Ulty. It should be considered his standard/optimum level.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Except the fact that its not an amp to begin with? Ultraman was beginning to run low on power, he snorted some kryptonite to get back at his full strength and just after this fight he has to go snort some more kryptonite because his powers were beginning to run low again?

Do you have a scan for this? A DCNU scan?

Originally posted by Galan007
No.

K-nite is the source of Ultraman's power(without it, his powers wane), and sunlight is the antithesis of his power. This is the direct opposite of Superman, if you didn't notice:

That's why he was eating k-nite when he first arrived on earth 3 as a baby:

That's why he's still huffing it now:

What we don't know is how often he must 'recharge', and/or what it takes to deplete, the k-nite reserves in his body. Since he's been in the mainstream DCU, Ulty has taken a single huff of k-nite, and that was sufficient for him to effortlessly move the moon, effortlessly own Black Adam, and also engage in a few miscellaneous activities in between. So a little bit of k-nite definitely seems to go a LONG way for him.

However, he did need to take a hit of k-nite in the wake of he and BA's battle, which is why he went looking for Metallo:

Regardless, fresh k-nite consumption shouldn't be considered an 'amp' for Ulty. It should be considered his standard/optimum level.

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Answer this...depending on the amount and size of knite he snorts...does this aid in how powerful his amp is?

Calling it an 'amp' is the problem, since it is the source of his power. Without it, he has nothing. That being said, it could be possible that he really doesn't have a 'standard' level in the same way regular Superman does.

Originally posted by carver9
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Answer this...depending on the amount and size of knite he snorts...does this aid in how powerful his amp is?

In the Silver Age it did. Don't know what route Johns will go, however.

Originally posted by carver9
Do you have a scan for this? A DCNU scan?
Originally posted by carver9
👆

Answer this...depending on the amount and size of knite he snorts...does this aid in how powerful his amp is?


Happy?

No.

I thought so.

Actually, Abhil, even though Carver may not have phrased it properly, you haven't addressed his implicit question, which is to say that perhaps UM's powers are inherently more dynamic than Superman's: stronger after a hit, perhaps much stronger after a big snort, but then waning much faster.

I wouldn't say this is necessarily true, but it could well be that supposing that just because Ultraman could so it, so could Superman, is wrong.

Originally posted by Pillow Biter
Calling it an 'amp' is the problem, since it is the source of his power. Without it, he has nothing. That being said, it could be possible that he really doesn't have a 'standard' level in the same way regular Superman does.
The source of Superman's power(the sun) is 'better' than Ultraman's in that Supes gets to recharge every single day-- all he has to do is wait for the sun to come up. His power source isn't as limited as Ultraman's.

That said, Ultraman has a very finite amount of k-nite that he can consume. Once that's gone, he's phucked. However, k-nite does seem to empower him moreso than standard/atmospheric sunlight empowers Superman-- and historically(even during the Silver Age) this has always been the case.

Not sure why Ulty doesn't just have Deathstorm make him some k-nite, though..? Perhaps Deathstorm(being that everything from earth 3 is opposite) can only affect organic molecules, while mainstream Firestorm can only affect inorganic molecules(we saw FS make k-nite during Trinity War, after all)..? I might be onto something here... mmm

Originally posted by Pillow Biter
Actually, Abhil, even though Carver may not have phrased it properly, you haven't addressed his implicit question, which is to say that perhaps UM's powers are inherently more dynamic than Superman's: stronger after a hit, perhaps much stronger after a big snort, but then waning much faster.

I wouldn't say this is necessarily true, but it could well be that supposing that just because Ultraman could so it, so could Superman, is wrong.

Ulty stores k-nite radiation in his cells, like Superman stores solar radiation in his cells.

If Ulty depletes those reserves, he needs to recharge-- same with Superman. And as we've seen: a little k-nite goes a LONG way for Ulty.

The Ultraman cokehead panels are priceless epic awesome.

Originally posted by Galan007
The source of Superman's power(the sun) is 'better' than Ultraman's in that Supes gets to recharge every single day-- all he has to do is wait for the sun to come up. His power source isn't as limited as Ultraman's.

That said, Ultraman has a very finite amount of k-nite that he can consume. Once that's gone, he's phucked. However, k-nite does seem to empower him moreso than standard/atmospheric sunlight empowers Superman-- and historically(even during the Silver Age) this has always been the case.

In other continuities, is there any evidence of Ultraman being more powerful just after a hit than Superman normally is?