Originally posted by Dark Exile
Wow, you just can never be nice, can you Ordo?
Your like a more elitist, KMC version of Comic Book Guy.
"Worst. Clone Wars Episode. Ever."
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In all seriousness though, finding this out kinda turns me off the show. Would have been a great way to merge concepts and put to rest old prejudices. I guess I will have more interest if Savage shows up again. As for now, not really gonna care anymore.
Thankfully I'm not obese. And yeah, I think this entire show sucks pretty hard. So does most of the EU, including this show, which is the exact opposite of what we were promised.
Revan is a fanboy(girl) cult and I think my disdain for the vapid tale that is KOTOR is well known around these parts. Bane seems useless to me. There is a reason I stick mostly to movies...and thats because they're generally the solid part of this series. I dont care for badassery, I care for depth and meaning and drama. Revan and bane seem to have all the hooting and hollering of an MMA fight. I select EU that I like and toss out the rest. I dont see how Revan or Bane contribute anything to the story, but when the story stinks to begin with, what can they add? We don't even know wtf the "Son" is, its all just a farce to put another sith lord in drag and destroy the drama of the movies. Like some mystical Pandora in a spinning top somehow controls the fate of the universe, Anakin will bow to any man who offers him jelly beans, and nothing in the old trilogy was an original concept, it was just Anakin rehashing the same plot over and over again
All this show has proved to me lately is that an ever-beautiful creation cant save an utter lack of vision and plot.
Hows that?
Originally posted by Ordo
Thankfully I'm not obese. And yeah, I think this entire show sucks pretty hard. So does most of the EU, including this show, which is the exact opposite of what we were promised.Revan is a fanboy(girl) cult and I think my disdain for the vapid tale that is KOTOR is well known around these parts. Bane seems useless to me. There is a reason I stick mostly to movies...and thats because they're generally the solid part of this series. I dont care for badassery, I care for depth and meaning and drama. Revan and bane seem to have all the hooting and hollering of an MMA fight. I select EU that I like and toss out the rest. I dont see how Revan or Bane contribute anything to the story, but when the story stinks to begin with, what can they add? We don't even know wtf the "Son" is, its all just a farce to put another sith lord in drag and destroy the drama of the movies. Like some mystical Pandora in a spinning top somehow controls the fate of the universe, Anakin will bow to any man who offers him jelly beans, and nothing in the old trilogy was an original concept, it was just Anakin rehashing the same plot over and over again
All this show has proved to me lately is that an ever-beautiful creation cant save an utter lack of vision and plot.
Hows that?
I could go through your argument and pick things apart, but in the end where would that get us? This is not the place nor is this the time, Star Wars is different things to different people, and people will always want to see what they want to see. You have some valid points and I respect your opinion. I just wish you would one day respect others.
Disagreeing is not disrespecting. Calling me "elitist" and disrespectful, or likening me to cartoon characters, those are personal attacks. I don't really care about them nor do I find them hurtful, but I haven't leveled any at you. Just sayin.
You shouldn't take offense just because someone doesn't like the same comic book characters as you.
Originally posted by Ordo
Disagreeing is not disrespecting. Calling me "elitist" and disrespectful, or likening me to cartoon characters, those are personal attacks. I don't really care about them nor do I find them hurtful, but I haven't leveled any at you. Just sayin.You shouldn't take offense just because someone doesn't like the same comic book characters as you.
Perhaps it is just the wording in your posts. I have been in and out of the forums over the last couple of years(college really is a pain) and I have never really seen you pass your opinion of as just that, an opinion. Saying things like "they suck", "trashed" greater saga, comes off too harsh. I am sure there are other examples of a sense of "final" and "absolute" judgement floating on the forum somewhere. As for myself, I am not a Karen Traviss fan, but I don't go around berating her work whenever it is mentioned. I realize Star Wars includes things I am not really a fan of, and so I just respectfully decline and pass it off to the next person.
I might not particularly care for something but that doesn't mean it is "trashing" the Star Wars universe.
Ordo is just disappointed in CW and expresses that. I agree with him, I think it's taking down the whole SW concept into mediocreness... The PT started that already.
The point is, there are a lot of fans who love SW and want to love everything Lucas gives them SW wise. And that is fine. But there are people who have issues with SW on very reasonable levels (drama, logic, sequence, characters, humour, intelligence, contradictions etc etc). And for some reason if you address the dramatic problems and the complete turn around of certain story aspects of SW like CW is doing often, then you're considered elitist or something...
So out of fanship, why can't people like Ordo just address the problems of these series? isn't that what the forum is about? Not jkust: if you like it,you adore it. If you don't like a part of it, walk away.
Silly.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
What throws me off is that "The balance is light side only" is an oxymoron. Something can not be "balanced" if there is only one component to it.
That's not an oxymoron, so long as you understand what is meant by 'Light Side'. Simply by saying 'Light Side' you automatically imply that all components within are balanced. The Dark Side is, basically, anything that would throw that balance off.
Originally posted by Dark Exile
I wish I had not seen this;
http://www.starwars.com/video/view/001225.htmlI love both of these characters, maybe one more than the other, but still... For once, it would have been great to have had characters not been looked down upon by the "movie purists" and have the characters that you respect and love not be trashed for simply not being in the movies. They would have been as canon as everything else you see in The Clone Wars. Ahhh, so close...
I have never liked Bane... But we were so close to having Revan!
Originally posted by queeq
Ordo is just disappointed in CW and expresses that. I agree with him, I think it's taking down the whole SW concept into mediocreness... The PT started that already.The point is, there are a lot of fans who love SW and want to love everything Lucas gives them SW wise. And that is fine. But there are people who have issues with SW on very reasonable levels (drama, logic, sequence, characters, humour, intelligence, contradictions etc etc). And for some reason if you address the dramatic problems and the complete turn around of certain story aspects of SW like CW is doing often, then you're considered elitist or something...
So out of fanship, why can't people like Ordo just address the problems of these series? isn't that what the forum is about? Not jkust: if you like it,you adore it. If you don't like a part of it, walk away.
Silly.
No, by all means, express one's fanship. Just do not assume that because you don't care for something, others will dislike it as well. It is just a little disparaging to be very passionate about a section of Star Wars and be told that it is "trash." I myself find AOTC to already be a really low point in the lore, but I am not going to make fans of it feel bad about liking it.
Ghosts of Mortis was one of the worst episodes of the series. None of it made any sense. The assaults on canon were horrendous, the ending vapid and predictable, and the plot illogical and contrived. I dont even want to go through and list all the errors and inconsistancies.
But relevant to the conversation, as per the episode the "scales of good and evil" is a see-saw mechanism, not a Lucas non-mechanism. Lucas can blither whatever he wants in his senility. The evidence is to the contrary.