Batman (Dick) Vs Classic Daredevil

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Show me a single thing the that suggest Dick has plateaued, that he is on par with Bruce Wayne, because that is what you are suggesting. Tomasi or Dini said in a interview that he was as skilled as Bruce now... but that isn't code for peak human, and it hasn't been demonstrated on panel anyway. Graysons' strength, speed and agility feats have been more or less consistent since his solo series started in 96.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Never claimed he was on par with Batman because not many normal humans are DD included but he does have a couple feats that I doubt real olympic level guys would struggle with like holding a well overweight grown man by his ankles with one hand the characters name is sliiping my mind Piggy or something like that

Almost every street - even women - have dozens of feats of holding grown men at an arms length above their head with no effort, or dangling men over buildings by their ankles. Barely worth noting. Batman has peak human strength, Nightwing has the strength of an Olympic level body builder... in a Olympic level swimmers body.

Agreed but with one hand and a well overweight guy not so much It is worth noting the feat speaks for its self the guy atleast weighed 200 lbs and thats being generous I suppose I could take a second look at the scan to see if I am overexaggerating the feat I doubt it though

Originally posted by iceman24567
Agreed but with one hand and a well overweight guy not so much It is worth noting the feat speaks for its self the guy atleast weighed 200 lbs and thats being generous I suppose I could take a second look at the scan to see if I am overexaggerating the feat I doubt it though

And Daredevil has thrown a 400lbs weight like a baseball, and flipped a limo.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And Daredevil has thrown a 400lbs weight like a baseball, and flipped a limo.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Thats besides the point im not trying to say Dick is on Batman or DDs level physically they have had consistent peak human feats for decades

If Dick is peak then DD and Batman are superhuman...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If Dick is peak then DD and Batman are superhuman...

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yes exactly that must be the case no possible way Dick could have gotten a strength push thats beyond believeable

He hasn't done anything to rival the best strength feats Batman and DD have. If he is peak human, then they are stronger, stronger than peak human is superhuman. Dick does not have peak human strength, he has Olympic level strength.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He hasn't done anything to rival the best strength feats Batman and DD have. If he is peak human, then they are stronger, stronger than peak human is superhuman. Dick does not have peak human strength, he has Olympic level strength.

Originally posted by jinzin
😂

ha-som

Originally posted by jinzin
no WAY did you write this with a straight face. 😐

you believe that DD is more agile? if ANYTHING they are even..any feat DD has NW can counter (agility wise)

Originally posted by Sin I AM
you believe that DD is more agile? if ANYTHING they are even..any feat DD has NW can counter (agility wise)

not when it comes to evasive dodging multiple projectiles and lasers in a closed environment due to DD's radar sense being heavily relied on.

Originally posted by King Castle
i dont believe that, hon.

not when it comes to evasive dodging multiple projectiles and lasers in a closed environment due to DD's radar sense being heavily relied on.

so, thats his way of seeing...u make it seem as if Matt cant be tagged, or that Grayson has never dodged projectiles before

his radar sense is more then just his "eyes" it has a wider field then conventional eyesight its not the same.

it gives him a slight heads up advantage then mere eyesight where he straddles the peak human speed reflex comfortably, Darlin.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
so, thats his way of seeing...u make it seem as if Matt cant be tagged, or that Grayson has never dodged projectiles before

i understand the nature of his powers, and even though his sense are superhuman his reflexes are not...he's still limited to olympic level

Originally posted by Sin I AM
i understand the nature of his powers, and even though his sense are superhuman his reflexes are not...he's still limited to olympic level

Originally posted by King Castle
yet the early warning he gets from his radar sense allows him to anticipate and react before his opponent does to avoid hits to the point he might as well have peak human reaction time and not olympic

u cant classify that as peak human reaction time, since he body does not move at peak human speeds...its like if i know your going to throw something and move before u throw it and effectively dodge it, it does not make me any faster than u simply because i knew what u were going to do.........and yet he still gets hit at times

Originally posted by Sin I AM
i understand the nature of his powers, and even though his sense are superhuman his reflexes are not...he's still limited to olympic level

sin, read dd #1 it explains how his increased senses put his agility above what a normal human could achieve. in other words; statement, on panel, that backs up the feats 🙂