Rank in H2H effectiveness.

Started by srankmissingnin5 pages
Originally posted by Deadline
I highly skilled MA with class 10 strength could flip over a tank. I'm pretty sure aliens have chi.

I don't know dude, tanks weight like 50+ tons. Aliens can have chi, Gamora doesn't... or at least she has no proficiency in its use.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't know dude, tanks weight like 50+ tons.

I don't think you need to have 50 ton strength to flip over a tank.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Aliens can have chi, Gamora doesn't... or at least she has no proficiency in its use.

Why would you say that, are alien martial arts vastly different from earthly ones? There are similarities. Even Punisher can use chi, not like Iron Fist though.

Please list for me the number of MA skills in the Universe Bats, Cap, Shiva, Wolverine and others have mastered. We know Gamora's number.. yet pretty much all of these people aren't even close to that number... yet have more skill? Guys this is January not April for an April fools day joke.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Please list for me the number of MA skills in the Universe Bats, Cap, Shiva, Wolverine and others have mastered. We know Gamora's number.. yet pretty much all of these people aren't even close to that number... yet have more skill? Guys this is January not April for an April fools day joke.

Why do Cap and co have more skill?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Please list for me the number of MA skills in the Universe Bats, Cap, Shiva, Wolverine and others have mastered. We know Gamora's number.. yet pretty much all of these people aren't even close to that number... yet have more skill? Guys this is January not April for an April fools day joke.
does that really matter at all?

Originally posted by Deadline
I don't think you need to have 50 ton strength to flip over a tank.

Why would you say that, are alien martial arts vastly different from earthly ones? There are similarities. Even Punisher can use chi, not like Iron Fist though.

I don't see how you could do it with less than class 50... since that's how much one weighs. 😕

I said Aliens can have chi, but that Gamora doesn't know how to use it. Punisher as been seen using Chi. Gamora has not. Hence she can't until she does. She has strength implants and genetic manipulation courtesy of Thanos, but no ability with chi.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't see how you could do it with less than class 50... since that's how much one weighs. 😕

Yea but what I'm trying to say is that you don't neccesarily need class 50 strength just to flip it. In order to lift it yes, but not neccesarily to turn it over.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

I said Aliens can have chi, but that Gamora doesn't know how to use it. Punisher as been seen using Chi. Gamora has not. Hence she can't until she does. She has strength implants and genetic manipulation courtesy of Thanos, but no ability with chi.

Yes I know, but apart from flipping the tank I haven't seen anything else that suggests she has class 60 strength. It looked like to me that the writer was trying to imply that she was so skilled people thought that she was as strong as Iron Man.

Originally posted by Deadline
Yea but what I'm trying to say is that you don't neccesarily need class 50 strength just to flip it. In order to lift it yes, but not neccesarily to turn it over.

Yes I know, but apart from flipping the tank I haven't seen anything else that suggests she has class 60 strength. It looked like to me that the writer was trying to imply that she was so skilled people thought that she was as strong as Iron Man.

Thanos upgraded her strength to be on par with Adam Warlock, and then Adam Warlock upgraded her strength again. She was supposed to be on par with Magus physically.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Thanos upgraded her strength to be on par with Adam Warlock, and then Adam Warlock upgraded her strength again. She was supposed to be on par with Magus physically.

Yea I think I remember DumbGo arguing about this. I remember Gamora getting cybernetic implants by Thanos but I'm not even sure that this gave her superhuman strength...when did Adam upgrade her?

Originally posted by Deadline
Yea I think I remember DumbGo arguing about this. I remember Gamora getting cybernetic implants by Thanos but I'm not even sure that this gave her superhuman strength...when did Adam upgrade her?
during the infinity gauntlet saga.

adam revived Pip and Gamora using human corpses for their souls to inhabit after he took them out of soul world. after that event soon as the infinity watch series started it was confirmed by Pip and Gamora stating that Adam had improved them giving Pip "at the very least spiderman lvl strength" which he didnt have before and tossing a boulder into the ocean. Gamora also said yes she had been improved and had noticed the upgrade as well.

Originally posted by King Castle
during the infinity gauntlet saga.

adam revived Pip and Gamora using human corpses for their souls to inhabit after he took them out of soul world. after that event soon as the infinity watch series started it was confirmed by Pip and Gamora stating that Adam had improved them giving Pip "at the very least spiderman lvl strength" which he didnt have before and tossing a boulder into the ocean. Gamora also said yes she had been improved and had noticed the upgrade as well.

Yea but I'm not sure if she had superhuman strength before that.

Originally posted by King Castle
during the infinity gauntlet saga.

adam revived Pip and Gamora using human corpses for their souls to inhabit after he took them out of soul world. after that event soon as the infinity watch series started it was confirmed by Pip and Gamora stating that Adam had improved them giving Pip "at the very least spiderman lvl strength" which he didnt have before and tossing a boulder into the ocean. Gamora also said yes she had been improved and had noticed the upgrade as well.

Yeah, and she was class 10 before her Soul World upgrade.

Originally posted by Deadline
Yea but I'm not sure if she had superhuman strength before that.
during her flash back story she recalls how she was nearly killed and even raped on an off world planet b//c she went shopping when she was a tween.

Thanos saved her and it stated on panel that the robbers didnt leave much to work with for thanos so he started implanting her with light weight bones and implants making her stronger, faster and even gave her 1st low end Healing factor when thanos told her that even her scars would fade now..

she tried to cry thanos said he rerouted her tear ducts so she couldnt.

bumble bee: anymore questions you want to ask?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yeah, and she was class 10 before her Soul World upgrade.

You sure about that? I've read bios that state that she had the strength of a women who engages in regular intensive exercise. Yea I know bios get things wrong but they usually don't get things THAT wrong.

Originally posted by King Castle
during her flash back story she recalls how she was nearly killed and even raped on an off world planet b//c she went shopping when she was a tween.

Thanos saved her and it stated on panel that the robbers didnt leave much to work with for thanos so he started implanting her with light weight bones and implants making her stronger, faster and even gave her 1st low end Healing factor when thanos told her that even her scars would fade now..

she tried to cry thanos said he rerouted her tear ducts so she couldnt.

bumble bee: anymore questions you want to ask?

Yea I know but that doesn't mean she had class 10 strength, I'm pretty sure the bios at the time stated she didn't have superhuman strentgh.

Bio's also had Classic Drax at class 50 or 60 while he was tearing stars and destroying planets from side effect of battle and the most powerful being in the universe.

Gamora was trained for the specific mission to kill Adam Warlock who at the time was already herald lvl Thor class.

even if the bio stated it and was initial writers intend it would have to be over turned by her feat display as a retcon in strength.

no Olympic or peak could have bn doing what she was doing at the time without massive PiS which it was at the time with writer but once you start injecting some logic by modern individuals you either call it Pis or try to correct it as best you can with some moderate superhuman strength less we have another broken garbage character like KK

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_hysteria

and Wolverine beat her in a comic. 🙂

KMC > Comic

Originally posted by 753
does that really matter at all?

If you've mastered over 80% of all MA in the UNIVERSE.. you don't think that equates to skill? Which is more impressive than anyone save for KK and maybe Mantis on this list.

mindset

go away unless you have something relevant to contribute to.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
If you've mastered over 80% of all MA in the UNIVERSE.. you don't think that equates to skill? Which is more impressive than anyone save for KK and maybe Mantis on this list.
I just think t's kind of hyperbolic. dont they say something similar about orion? and nobody even remembers him in these lists

Originally posted by King Castle
mindset

go away unless you have something relevant to contribute to.

KC, stfu.