Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It says one one one, only hand guns so the angel arm doesn't come into play.And Vash isn't Ichigo fast, he is [b]maybe
Spider-man fast. Grave had no trouble hanging with Bear - who was a legitimate bullet timer- and unlike Vash, Grave can tank bullets. Grave should win. [/B]
I'd say that Vash is faster.
Vash is definitely much more intelligent. Vash also has much better strategy.
But, how is Vash going to kill Heat in necrolyzed form when no bullets he has will even punch through?
Heat wins.
Originally posted by srankmissingninVash is definitely a bullet timer, it shows this in the second episode. He is an increadible fighter, and never misses.
It says one one one, only hand guns so the angel arm doesn't come into play.And Vash isn't Ichigo fast, he is [b]maybe
Spider-man fast. Grave had no trouble hanging with Bear - who was a legitimate bullet timer- and unlike Vash, Grave can tank bullets. Grave should win. [/B]
Originally posted by dadudemonlike you said, vash is a great strategist, he could use his surroundings, depending on where they are, we don't know. he could make a wrecking ball land on him or something idk, remember he beat that HUGE dude with only his gun, given the bullets could pierce his skin.
I'd say that Vash is faster.Vash is definitely much more intelligent. Vash also has much better strategy.
But, how is Vash going to kill Heat in necrolyzed form when no bullets he has will even punch through?
Heat wins.
Also there is the fact that Vash never killed (with one obvious exception), he rarely caused injury, and he always won. He might not KILL him, but he would most likely find a way to disable him, or it would be a stalemate, i don't see how Heat could win.
Originally posted by menokokoro
Vash is definitely a bullet timer, it shows this in the second episode. He is an increadible fighter, and never misses.like you said, vash is a great strategist, he could use his surroundings, depending on where they are, we don't know. he could make a wrecking ball land on him or something idk, remember he beat that HUGE dude with only his gun, given the bullets could pierce his skin.
Also there is the fact that Vash never killed (with one obvious exception), he rarely caused injury, and he always won. He might not KILL him, but he would most likely find a way to disable him, or it would be a stalemate, i don't see how Heat could win.
Vash missed all the time. 😕
Want to know how this fight will go? Watch the Knives vs Vash fight, ignore the angel arms and pretend that Knives could tank bullets.
I was thinking about Knives. Knives didn't dance between the bullets, he didn't even have to serpentine, Vash and him ran in parallel lines and shot barrages of bullets at each other and missed. I'm sure there are a half a dozen examples of him missing other targets, but I'm not going to rewatch the anime to find them.
Originally posted by srankmissingninthere aren't from what I can tell, and they can change trajectory of the bullets with their minds. Also, even if they couldn't, that is an irrelevant detail, the point of that was simply to show that knives is really the only one who could compete against him on equal ground.
I was thinking about Knives. Knives didn't dance between the bullets, he didn't even have to serpentine, Vash and him ran in parallel lines and shot barrages of bullets at each other and missed. I'm sure there are a half a dozen examples of him missing other targets, but I'm not going to rewatch the anime to find them.
Edit: so them not using serpentine is not relevant, it is simply them not wanting to animate it, or forgetting to, it doesn't matter either way.
Originally posted by menokokoro
did you not read my reply? I know the bullets wont do anything to him, not directly anyway. and besides, tell me how brandon would win against vash?
I did and I ignored the content as standard vs. scripting.
Brandon is not slow or crappy, at all. He has much bigger guns. Brandon is more than fast enough to tag Vash with a few bullets but it'd be a ratio, in my estimate of 5:1. Meaning, Vash shoots Brandon 5 times for every 1 shot Brandon gets on Vash. In a shootout where both are regular mortals, that's a clear win for Vash. However, Vash cannot kill Brandon, at all. Drop a wrecking ball on him? Nothing. A building fallin on him did not kill him...so why would a wrecking ball? Brandon could literally throw the wrecking ball. Remember, Brandon went up against and manhandled an APC.
It says one one one, only hand guns so the angel arm doesn't come into play.
I never said anything about his angel arm. Apparantly he can do it with a regular gun.
Originally posted by dadudemonI'm just saying that his bullets directly aren't the only way to win. For one thing, he could destroy Brandons weapons (you know he could), and I still see no reason why vash would be hit at all by brandon, bullet timing combined with his mental powers makes that virtually impossible. I didn't mean he was slow, I just mean he is slow compared to vash, and his aim was never anything incredible, just above average. Like I said before, vash was pretty much a machine in that aspect.
I did and I ignored the content as standard vs. scripting.Brandon is not slow or crappy, at all. He has much bigger guns. Brandon is more than fast enough to tag Vash with a few bullets but it'd be a ratio, in my estimate of 5:1. Meaning, Vash shoots Brandon 5 times for every 1 shot Brandon gets on Vash. In a shootout where both are regular mortals, that's a clear win for Vash. However, Vash cannot kill Brandon, at all. Drop a wrecking ball on him? Nothing. A building fallin on him did not kill him...so why would a wrecking ball? Brandon could literally throw the wrecking ball. Remember, Brandon went up against and manhandled an APC.
The only reason Brandon even stands a chance is his durribility, and vash would find a way around that, before he slips up (which would take a long time, and would be combined with his exhaustion.)
Except, y'know, bullets. With his eyes closed. Dancing to music. 😐
