Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
He is a technopath and has demostrated the ability to use matter manipulation, but although I believe he has the "goods" to beat Nimrod, he definitely does NOT have the durability to stand up to Nimrod if Nimrod were to strike 1st...I could see Jeffries beating Nimrod, but I cant see him beating Nimrod a perfect 10/10...
BOX armor/forcefields...nuff said.
I see it like this... if nimrod was able to physically hurt classic juggernaut, he should outright kill most high heralds if it came down to it.
You have to be pretty far up the chain to beat this character because again, if anyone is hit with the same tactic that he used against jugs "they are not surviving" imo.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Hmmm...maybe so; you dont think Nimrod could start off with stealth and/or intangibility then find a way to get Jefferies through his armor?
Hard to do when Jeffries can outright control robots, he is Marvel's best technopath plus he also has scanners making it diffcult to sneak up on him.
Originally posted by carver9
I see it like this... if nimrod was able to physically hurt classic juggernaut, he should outright kill most high heralds if it came down to it.
He hurt Juggernaut with sonics, easy now.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Hard to do when Jeffries can outright control robots, he is Marvel's best technopath plus he also has scanners making it diffcult to sneak up on him.He hurt Juggernaut with sonics, easy now.
That's what I am saying, he physically bypassed the enchantment to hurt juggernaut. The entire xmen and thor failed at causing any type of physical harm towards juggernaut but nimrod accomplished the impossible.
That's why I said, if he use those same tactics that he used on jugs on whoever he is fighting, they are dying.
Originally posted by carver9
That's what I am saying, he physically bypassed the enchantment to hurt juggernaut. The entire xmen and thor failed at causing any type of physical harm towards juggernaut but nimrod accomplished the impossible.That's why I said, if he use those same tactics that he used on jugs on whoever he is fighting, they are dying.
Ummm...mental attacks have worked on Juggernaut in the past and the sonic attack messed up his mind...no different really as thats why Nimrod knocked his helmet off to attack. If you wish to go that route Nightcrawler has caused Juggernaut to scream out in pain.
Ummm...no, that's ABC logic and to say the same sonic attack would work on everyone else is faulty at best
Originally posted by -K-M-
Ummm...mental attacks have worked on Juggernaut in the past and the sonic attack messed up his mind...no different really as thats why Nimrod knocked his helmet off to attack. If you wish to go that route Nightcrawler has caused Juggernaut to scream out in pain.Ummm...no, that's ABC logic and to say the same sonic attack would work on everyone else is faulty at best
You see, now you are low balling.
Are you referring to nightcrawler throwing fire in his face? If so, you are seriously lowballing and I am not going any route.
A sonic attack is different than a telepathic assault.
Originally posted by carver9
You see, now you are low balling.Are you referring to nightcrawler throwing fire in his face? If so, you are seriously lowballing and I am not going any route.
A sonic attack is different than a telepathic assault.
Way to miss the point.
Yes it is, but what does a sonic attack do? Messes the mind's equilibrium which telepaths often do to render an opponenet out. No different.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Way to miss the point.Yes it is, but what does a sonic attack do? Messes the mind's equilibrium which telepaths often do to render an opponenet out. No different.
KM I don't like losing but I admit, you are right.
Forget that I brought that up (I still don't see why you brought up the nightcrawler incident, it didn't help anything).
Depends on your definition of a weak character. If your definition of a strong character is someone with mutant powers, super strength, energy projection, cosmic abilities, or mystical enhancement then my choice has neither of those. I choose Amadeus Cho. All he has is his naturally born intelligence. Pick up a pebble and flick it into the one place that would cause a chain reaction resulting in Nimrods eventual demise.