Originally posted by MrMind
it would be awesome if there's any back up for this statement
He could only come up with 5 possible winning scenarios against three members of the Mercs? The Mercs are Z-List losers at their best.
He couldn't come up with a single winning scenario that didn't evolve Apollo when he was surrounded by three SAS soldiers with guns trained on him?
His battle computer has never given him an advantage on anyone who wasn't nameless fodder? Nemesis. Zealot. Grifter. Hawksmoore. They have all shown they can more than hold their own in a physical confrontation. Wolverine would roll Midnighter with ease.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He could only come up with 5 possible winning scenarios against three members of the Mercs? The Mercs are Z-List losers at their best.He couldn't come up with a single winning scenario that didn't evolve Apollo when he was surrounded by three SAS soldiers with guns trained on him?
His battle computer has [b]never
given him an advantage on anyone who wasn't nameless fodder? Nemesis. Zealot. Grifter. Hawksmoore. They have all shown they can more than hold their own in a physical confrontation. Wolverine would roll Midnighter with ease. [/B]
Originally posted by MrMind
are you really comparing hawksmoore or apollo to wolverine? come on. and sure midnighter cannot beat nemesis or zealot but zealot or nemesis can't beat him either. I think zealot and nemesis can beat wolverine too since their blades can cut through any matter. with their thousands year training.
just recently midnighter ko maul with nerve strike. he's extremely skilled. if you read authority he face superhuman all the time. plus midnighter is extremely strong dude killed two monster by ripping part of the rail and throw right in their mouth. just because the weapon x got healing factor doesn't mean any of them wouldn't get ko or disarm. deadpool got owned by the cat for god sake.
Outside a city handicapped to h2h, Hawksmoore is Spider-man lite, and that is who Midnighter fights.
Nemesis walked all over Midnigher and Hawksmoore at the same time. Zealot had Midnighter dead to rights and he only managed to save face because the fight was interrupted and he seized advantage while Zealot was distracted.
Midnighter got his ass kicked by Jukko. He was so out classed by Jukko's skill that he thought he had super powers... Jukko isn't even in the top 20 of Wildstorm fighters. Midnighter is - at best - a third tier combatant, luckily he spends most of his time fighting no body fodder who line up to get one shotted.
He has class two strength, barely enhanced speed, and durability and healing insufficient to go to blows with anyone on the Marvel team and come out on top.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Outside a city handicapped to h2h, Hawksmoore is Spider-man lite, and that is who Midnighter fights.Nemesis walked all over Midnigher and Hawksmoore at the same time. Zealot had Midnighter dead to rights and he only managed to save face because the fight was interrupted and he seized advantage while Zealot was distracted.
Midnighter got his ass kicked by Jukko. He was so out classed by Jukko's skill that he thought he had super powers... Jukko isn't even in the top 20 of Wildstorm fighters. Midnighter is - at best - a third tier combatant, luckily he spends most of his time fighting no body fodder who line up to get one shotted.
He has class two strength, barely enhanced speed, and durability and healing insufficient to go to blows with anyone on the Marvel team and come out on top.
20 fighters? I don't think there are 20 Wildstorm fighters.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
20 fighters? I don't think there are 20 Wildstorm fighters.
I ment to say "Midnighter isn't in the top 20 Wildstorm fighters," not Jukko. 🙁
In no order:
Paris
Zealot
Nemesis
Grifter
Warblade
Deathblow
Rose Tatoo
Jukko
Grand Sarin
Backlash (Marc)
Grail
Jakita
Warblade
Javen
Dane
Sublime
Cybernary
Redbird
Artemis
Scarlet
Ferrian
Midnighter runs scenarios and calculates odds, picks the method with the highest chance of victory... and then tries to get who ever he is fighting to fight the way he wants. It isn't a sure bet, and as far it has largely only ever worked on nobody fodder. Midnighter isn't Freestyle. He doesn't see all the possible futures and pick the one he wants to transpire and it transpires, that isn't what his powers are. The success of Midnighter's powers have as much to do with his opponent as they do with him.
Originally posted by King Castle
Damn, right. 😖hifty:i just never liked him, he was always a watered down mockery of sabe and wolvie.
i know he fought sas but i still like him nor em i impressed by him.
Even before his recent upgrade he gave Wolverine a serious fight.
He also fought Wolverine after his Romulus upgrade and showed he was faster and had poisons that actually knocked Wolverine out for 3 days
Originally posted by -K-M-
Even before his recent upgrade he gave Wolverine a serious fight.He also fought Wolverine after his Romulus upgrade and showed he was faster and had poisons that actually knocked Wolverine out for 3 days
He ambushed Wolverine it was far from a legit fight.
Originally posted by -K-M-
No clue they never explained it, but that same WC beat Sabretooth off-panel and dragged him back to Romulus.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Also think people are serously over looking Agent Zero.
Originally posted by MrMind
you mean me? I never mentioned Dane because I'm not familiar with wetworks. midnighter is a big threat because I don't think character like wolverine or x-23 could take him. he got tons of crazy feats that could put him on the level. plus he could run the fight 100 ways in his head and find the winning solution before the fight start, I wouldn't be surprise if he disarm any of the weapon x with his skill.
Like I said, Midnighter is good; however, most of these guys just have a winning power/skill set against him. He'd literally have to avoid getting hit even once against most of these guys. It's not a likely outcome.
Warblade, Dane, and Chase are who gives Team 7 the win here.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I ment to say "Midnighter isn't in the top 20 Wildstorm fighters," not Jukko. 🙁In no order:
Paris
Zealot
Nemesis
Grifter
Warblade
Deathblow
Rose Tatoo
Jukko
Grand Sarin
Backlash (Marc)
Grail
Jakita
Warblade
Javen
Dane
Sublime
Cybernary
Redbird
Artemis
Scarlet
Ferrian
Oh, you're going by pure skill? Because Midnighter and Zealot were pretty even. Even the writer stated as much in his interview after the battle.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
He ambushed Wolverine it was far from a legit fight.were was this stated?
Ok? Notice I never mentioned anything about defeating him, just mentioned the claws and WC's superior speed
1. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/wolverine_53_15.jpg
2. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/wolverine_53_16.jpg
