if only women wrote religion

Started by inimalist9 pages

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
You don't think that many religious edicts regarding how women should conduct themselves would be different if women had a direct hand in it? Take Sharia for example: during a trial, a woman's word is worth only half that as a man's. Or during cases of rape, a woman must bring not one, not two, not three, but four witnesses to testify on her behalf, or else she won't have a case, and the rapist will walk.

I'm no scholar or any kind of expert on the matter, but I have a distinct feeling that if women had any hand in the matter, things would be a tad different. (Call it a hunch)

maybe...

in the middle east and places like India, women are just as much a part of enforcing the system that oppresses them as men are, rather than passive victims. In fact, what is known as "Muslim feminism" tries to paint the role of women presented in the Quran as good and just, rather than oppressive.

I can't say I disagree, though I think this is different from what the OP was trying to get at (their "men are the selfish ones" statement sort of highlights their bias), women may very well have enshrined their own personal freedom within religion if they wrote the scriptures. However, the roles that women are given through religion, imho, reflect what were social norms at the time, rather than some imposition of new rules onto them, which makes me think we might see something similar to "muslim feminism", but you have a good point.

i think this discussion starts off on the wrong foot in ways because it's assuming that the current five religions (Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism) are the original religions and nothing came before it. these are the five latest religions in the world, prior to which, religions were predominantly matriarchal (in fact, so were the original societies). pagan religions have almost always been matriarchal and mystic cults (even some modern ones) have also had strong matriarchal influences. the result...........same old shite.

Originally posted by BeyondTheGrave
i think this discussion starts off on the wrong foot in ways because it's assuming that the current five religions (Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism) are the original religions and nothing came before it. these are the five latest religions in the world, prior to which, religions were predominantly matriarchal (in fact, so were the original societies). pagan religions have almost always been matriarchal and mystic cults (even some modern ones) have also had strong matriarchal influences. the result...........same old shite.

source? because I'm pretty sure thats not true.

Originally posted by BeyondTheGrave
i think this discussion starts off on the wrong foot in ways because it's assuming that the current five religions (Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism) are the original religions and nothing came before it. these are the five latest religions in the world, prior to which, religions were predominantly matriarchal (in fact, so were the original societies). pagan religions have almost always been matriarchal and mystic cults (even some modern ones) have also had strong matriarchal influences. the result...........same old shite.

That's actually incorrect. Hinduism is the oldest extant religion, with a tradition going back over 7,000 years ago. Hinduism is to the Ancient Egyptian and Greek religions, what cockroaches are to the dinosaurs. It predated them, and unlike them, Hinduism/roaches are still around.

By the way; Sikhism and Shenism (Chinese folk religion) both have more adherents than Judaism.

I remember a statistic from History channel saying how there's less than 15 million Jews today. Almost half of them live in Israel.

all men would still be circumcised imo by religious order or covenant.
i think men in general might be oppressed but a lot of things would be the same as in they being in power would choice to maintain it just as equally as men.

Originally posted by King Castle
all men would still be circumcised imo by religious order or covenant.
i think men in general might be oppressed but a lot of things would be the same as in they being in power would choice to maintain it just as equally as men.

what does circumcision have to do with women in religion?

Originally posted by -Pr-
what does circumcision have to do with women in religion?

Pissed-off Feminazis would gladly perform them...with a rusty knife.

"Thou shalt not even occasionally and drunkenly look at thine bride's friends ass on pain of stoning to death and burning in hell."

"Thou shalt not criticise the reversing technique of your wife in car parks, or talk during her soap operas."

"What belongeth to her is hers, what belongs to you is hers"

"Murder doeth be wrong, except when god tells you its ok to killeth the woman in front of you in the queue, if she has just bought the last pair of shoes that you likethed."

Hehehehee 😛

More seriously though, Abortion issues would probably be way more accepted.

source? because I'm pretty sure thats not true.

That's actually incorrect. Hinduism is the oldest extant religion, with a tradition going back over 7,000 years ago. Hinduism is to the Ancient Egyptian and Greek religions, what cockroaches are to the dinosaurs. It predated them, and unlike them, Hinduism/roaches are still around.

I'll look for sources and post them here, sure, but here's something you guys are missing: hinduism is the oldest KNOWN religion, not the oldest religion. human beings are believed to be around 200,000 years old and almost all religious cave paintings and idols are of females (venus of willendorf etc)

still, yes, the burden of proof is on me so I'll come around and post it soon enough (it's early hours of morning here and haven't had me coffee yet 😛 )

oops, nvm

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
"Thou shalt not even occasionally and drunkenly look at thine bride's friends ass on pain of stoning to death and burning in hell."

"Thou shalt not criticise the reversing technique of your wife in car parks, or talk during her soap operas."

"What belongeth to her is hers, what belongs to you is hers"

"Murder doeth be wrong, except when god tells you its ok to killeth the woman in front of you in the queue, if she has just bought the last pair of shoes that you likethed."

Hehehehee 😛

More seriously though, Abortion issues would probably be way more

accepted.

You are right! most of the old books written my men were in riddles or flat out fairy tales.

the religious might turn out to be long and boring only difference they add some tween romance, twilight style.

Samson and Delila had some steamy things going, heck they were doing drugs too. Heck a lot of them were doing drugs (Herbs)...Weeee...wild thing....Weeeee

you know the art work of samson would be fabio novel cover.

Yeah it would. LOL. Seemed to easily led by beautiful women though. Didn't help that she drugged him though. If charms fail, just drink this wonder cup..potion Mmmmm yummy!! ..Hehe.

Herbs/drugs were popular back in the OT. I believe even Solomon was on some old day form of ectasy (sp) You can read how it affected him in his earlier Psalms writings. Songs of Solomon.

the first woman and man were conjoined twins that split apart while one(the woman) was giving birth to seven children. There names were Sunday, Monday, tuesday, Wendsday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

We are talking about infinity and beyond, here, right?

Originally posted by alltoomany
the first woman and man were conjoined twins that split apart while one(the woman) was giving birth to seven children. There names were Sunday, Monday, tuesday, Wendsday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

We are talking about infinity and beyond, here, right?

In some parts of Afirca nudity is no big deal.

the bible would have had Lilith being coming a goddess and challenging god after she ate the apple and seduces the serpent and a true paradise would be formed in her image.

it would read like a Greek Myth Story and how women were liberated and conquered like Amazon Warrior Women...

imagine if earth is really Hell ran by men and space is really Heaven ran by women..